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Topic: Guess the rating game
Posted By: vajica
Subject: Guess the rating game
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 12:57pm
Took a video of two guys in the club, wanted to ask what do you think about their estimated rating

 


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Posted By: mts388
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 1:15pm
Originally posted by vajica vajica wrote:

Took a video of two guys in the club, wanted to ask what do you think about their estimated rating

 


Way too good for me to estimate.


Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 1:31pm
2350


Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 1:35pm
i know the guys so i will remain silent ;)


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 1:41pm
The guy closest to us is almost definitely 2800+ or has been at some point in his lifetime.

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Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 1:43pm
I guess the lefty was the 2006 US Open winner.



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Posted By: pgpg
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 1:55pm
Originally posted by t64t64t64 t64t64t64 wrote:

i know the guys so i will remain silent ;)

Yeah, and lefty's name is written on the back of his shirt too... Wink


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 2:05pm
Originally posted by pgpg pgpg wrote:

Originally posted by t64t64t64 t64t64t64 wrote:

i know the guys so i will remain silent ;)

Yeah, and lefty's name is written on the back of his shirt too... Wink

If you can read Russian/Slavic script, sure.  I just decided to trust my lying eyes.   I love his wrist/arm usage so I find it hard to miss even with my eyes closed.


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 2:07pm
Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by vajica vajica wrote:

Took a video of two guys in the club, wanted to ask what do you think about their estimated rating

 


Way too good for me to estimate.

You finally got one right - congrats!


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Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 2:47pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by pgpg pgpg wrote:

Originally posted by t64t64t64 t64t64t64 wrote:

i know the guys so i will remain silent ;)
Yeah, and lefty's name is written on the back of his shirt too... Wink
If you can read Russian/Slavic script, sure.  I just decided to trust my lying eyes.   I love his wrist/arm usage so I find it hard to miss even with my eyes closed.
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The spelling of his name is not quite right in English.
Same as NextLevel, I also trust my lying eyes.

*** If you know who is 2006 US Open Winner. He defeated Wilson Zhang (of Canada) in the final. ***


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Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 3:15pm
2006 and 2007

:)


Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 4:15pm
Originally posted by in2spin in2spin wrote:

2006 and 2007
:)
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Good catch.
Yes he won US Open in both 2006 and 2007.
(I watched only in 2006 when it was held in Charlotte, NC.)


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Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 4:38pm
(just showin' off...)

I saw him beat Liu Guoliang in Manchester

:)


Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 4:59pm
Amateurs....1100?

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Posted By: pgpg
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 5:24pm
Originally posted by in2spin in2spin wrote:

2006 and 2007

:)

And apparently 2003 as well


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Posted By: berndt_mann
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 5:53pm
What are their ratings?  Hard to tell; the rallies were too short but the foot stomping on serve was pretty decent.  I'd say that their rubbers are somewhere between 2100-2200 easy.  Nothing in the way of defense or finesse, but here I fear I'm dating myself.

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Posted By: Shifu
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 6:36pm
i think i know the left handed one? didn't he lose to JOW in the 2004 olympics?

edit: amazing, his footwork seems pretty bad but his arm makes up for it.


Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 6:41pm
left handed 94 in world ranking :)


Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 7:00pm
Originally posted by pgpg pgpg wrote:

Originally posted by in2spin in2spin wrote:

2006 and 2007
:)
And apparently 2003 as well
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Oops, more discovery.
The lefty won US open 3 times:  2003,  2006, and 2007.


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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 7:08pm
I would have said 2200 something. I'd be way off

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Posted By: Purett
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 8:05pm
karakaševic



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Posted By: JacekGM
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 8:29pm
Well, "the other guy" is not bad either, see here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxkTJcekvE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxkTJcekvE

BTW, I only know him because he beat my idol LP player Kostadinovic.


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Posted By: Jasonh
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 9:31pm
At my town we call your act for posting pro players videos and asking for rating "fishing". Wink

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Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 11:55pm
Originally posted by Jasonh Jasonh wrote:

At my town we call your act for posting pro players videos and asking for rating "fishing". Wink

Your town is full of kind people, in my town we just call them trolls



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Posted By: alphapong
Date Posted: 02/23/2017 at 12:02am
Why is it that I can't find him with the search function?

I know he has a USATT profile here:  http://usatt.simplycompete.com/userAccount/up/61209?embedded=&uai=61209&max=20" rel="nofollow - https://usatt.simplycompete.com/userAccount/up/61209?embedded=&uai=61209&max=20



Posted By: vajica
Date Posted: 02/23/2017 at 5:29am
You are right, and I am really sorry I am trolling a little, but no pun intended, didn't mean to insult noone, just thought it would be interesting for you to see Karakasevic in the break between seasons.

and, yeah, based on his footwork it would be really hard to guess that he is over 2800 LOL

The other guy is Marko Jevtovic, he is currently No.156 on ITTF list


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Posted By: vajica
Date Posted: 02/23/2017 at 5:31am
Originally posted by in2spin in2spin wrote:

(just showin' off...)

I saw him beat Liu Guoliang in Manchester

:)


I envy you for that! Clap


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Posted By: benfb
Date Posted: 02/25/2017 at 2:35am
Originally posted by vajica vajica wrote:

You are right, and I am really sorry I am trolling a little, but no pun intended, didn't mean to insult noone, just thought it would be interesting for you to see Karakasevic in the break between seasons.

and, yeah, based on his footwork it would be really hard to guess that he is over 2800 LOL

The other guy is Marko Jevtovic, he is currently No.156 on ITTF list
Jevtovic's serves look very illegal to me.  The camera is set over the left, which should make it easy to see the serves, but I can't see anything on most of them.


Posted By: Tt Gold
Date Posted: 02/25/2017 at 6:45am
Originally posted by benfb benfb wrote:

Originally posted by vajica vajica wrote:

You are right, and I am really sorry I am trolling a little, but no pun intended, didn't mean to insult noone, just thought it would be interesting for you to see Karakasevic in the break between seasons.

and, yeah, based on his footwork it would be really hard to guess that he is over 2800 LOL

The other guy is Marko Jevtovic, he is currently No.156 on ITTF list


Jevtovic's serves look very illegal to me.  The camera is set over the left, which should make it easy to see the serves, but I can't see anything on most of them.
man this illegal serve thing slowly starts to bother me.nowadays I see it all the time under every video. I get that people complain about someone like per garell, cause even the pros complain about him, but it is used way too often. It's like in the fitness industry, where everyone gets accused of using steroid even if they clearly aren't. People don't appreciate their game anymore, they rather look for something to complain. That's not a good mindset!


Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 02/25/2017 at 6:53am
It's rather like the racism issue. People of color other than your own getting bashed? You effing racist.

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Posted By: Purett
Date Posted: 02/25/2017 at 7:27am
Originally posted by alphapong alphapong wrote:

Why is it that I can't find him with the search function?

I know he has a USATT profile here:  http://usatt.simplycompete.com/userAccount/up/61209?embedded=&uai=61209&max=20" rel="nofollow - https://usatt.simplycompete.com/userAccount/up/61209?embedded=&uai=61209&max=20

the box for us citizen is checked


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Posted By: heavyspin
Date Posted: 02/25/2017 at 9:58am
Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by pgpg pgpg wrote:

Originally posted by t64t64t64 t64t64t64 wrote:

i know the guys so i will remain silent ;)
Yeah, and lefty's name is written on the back of his shirt too... Wink
If you can read Russian/Slavic script, sure.  I just decided to trust my lying eyes.   I love his wrist/arm usage so I find it hard to miss even with my eyes closed.
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The spelling of his name is not quite right in English.
Same as NextLevel, I also trust my lying eyes.

*** If you know who is 2006 US Open Winner. He defeated Wilson Zhang (of Canada) in the final. ***

For me, the distinctive half step to the right head dip motion just before returning serve gave his identity away. Almost like dabbing without the forearm to the forehand. 


Posted By: benfb
Date Posted: 02/25/2017 at 1:45pm
Originally posted by Tt Gold Tt Gold wrote:

 man this illegal serve thing slowly starts to bother me.nowadays I see it all the time under every video. I get that people complain about someone like per garell, cause even the pros complain about him, but it is used way too often. It's like in the fitness industry, where everyone gets accused of using steroid even if they clearly aren't. People don't appreciate their game anymore, they rather look for something to complain. That's not a good mindset!
It's not that I don't appreciate their play; I do.  But I look at the video and wonder what would it be like to play someone at that level.  The first question is whether I can even return their serve, and then I see that the serve is hidden anyway.  It doesn't matter if they have a 2800 level serve because it's hidden anyway.

I think it's perfectly possible to admire someone's feats even while condemning them for breaking the rules.  And then there's the more general discussion about why aren't the rules enforced (but this wasn't a tournament video), which I won't get into.


Posted By: vajica
Date Posted: 02/25/2017 at 2:01pm
Keep in mind that I am positioned quite low while I record the video, I think that during the game, from the opponent's point of view, Jevtovic's serves are visible (not trying to defend anyone).


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