Deception in rally shots
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Topic: Deception in rally shots
Posted By: maurice101
Subject: Deception in rally shots
Date Posted: 04/20/2018 at 1:11am
| I play a much younger guy a lot that reads my shots very well and is very fast. I was wondering how do forum members use deception in their shots? What type of shots do you use in deception and is there any video examples on this topic? A coach said forehand down the line is the best shot to use in this aspect of the game? Should I just improve my speed and placement in topspin shots or work more on deception? |
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Posted By: bars
Date Posted: 04/20/2018 at 2:05am
| if you hit the ball where they're not expecting it, it doesn't have to be as strong. because they're not in position or expecting. (edit) at my low level. |
Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 04/20/2018 at 3:47am
Imo you can't use deception in the most common sense that you fade a movement, e.g. Mizutani's flicks, but you should place the ball in a variety of places and in a position where the opponent will find it hard to reach. And reduce your stroke movement if your energy transfer is non optimal. Focus more on acceleration and reduce if needed. Learn how to create more kick on the ball in order to make it more difficult for the opponent. Your goal is to make it more difficult for the opponent while making it easier for you, in a rally. ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
maurice101 wrote:Posted By: Leshxa
Date Posted: 04/20/2018 at 7:19pm
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Deception for me consists of 3 steps - timing of contact, position/rotation or shoulders, and the head / direction of the blade. Position and shoulders often teleport what you're about to do, and if you can time a shot a bit later, you can catch the opponent reading shoulders as doing one things, but having the ball go to another spot. An example is a forehand loop that looks like cross court, but goes down the line. The head of the blade and directions also often imply the placement, but that can be misread ( with proper deception ). There is a coach at ICC that blocks with the head of the blade up, and every time I watch him, I misread where the ball is going. ------------- Back to table tennis... |
Posted By: mts388
Date Posted: 04/20/2018 at 10:09pm
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Deception can be as simple as changing the speed of the shot. |
Posted By: vanjr
Date Posted: 04/20/2018 at 11:12pm
| Variation is useful and usually easier to do than deception. Variation in speed or spin is important. Players can often groove to whatever you give them. |
Posted By: BRS
Date Posted: 04/21/2018 at 2:28pm
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IMO attempting deception is more likely to mess you up than him. If he's that fast he can just wait to see your ball and move to it. Placement is a better way for you to try to crack this problem, because it will help you in every match, without overburdening your technique. |
Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 04/21/2018 at 7:04pm
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what is a rally shot ------------- Ulmo Duality,Donic BlueGrip C2 red max ,Yinhe Super Kim Ox Black NZ table tennis selector, third in the World (plate Doubles)I'm Listed on the ITTF website |
Posted By: Lightzy
Date Posted: 04/21/2018 at 7:11pm
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Most deception is in the serve and the serve receive. Or in short balls in general. There is not much room for deception in long shots, but a lot of possible deception in short balls, during a rally too. Placement and tactics is more important in rally.. Probably best to learn basic tactics I think. Like how to not be tempted to hit a down-the-line backhand to your opponents forehand when you get caught at the forehand side of the table, being extra careful about a down-the-line pivot forehand to your opponent and whatever other shots that leave you open for a potential block that will 100% lose you the point. Basically how to avoid putting yourself in a situation where if the opponent returns the ball, you 100% lose. |