Of particular interest:

Also interesting would be the brand new Gewo rubbers that just came out.  Gewo Nexxus Xt Pro 48 And Gewo Nexxus El Pro 48.  El Pro is intended to be more spin based, with Xt being more speed based.  I have a sheet of EL Pro 48 on a custom ZLC blade I finished a few weeks ago, and it plays beautifully.  The feel on opening loops is exceptional.  Unfortunately I was not able to get it in a max 2.3mm sponge when I ordered off contra.de, and since it was put in stock on TT11 a few days ago it is already totally sold out.  I intend to get some max sponge of both of these in the future, as well as the EL Pro 43.  I’ve got EL Pro 38 on the backhand of my ZLC blade and I really like it too.  I thought it might feel too soft to me, being used to 42.5-43 degree hardness sponges for my backhand rubbers, but it plays very well.  I like the soft feel, as I really like to feel the ball being gripped by the rubber with openers on my backhand.  I try to focus on very brush oriented spin-based openers on my backhand loops, versus lots of power, and I feel that control with lots of grab and high amounts of spin being generated.

O7P is a lot less bouncy (especially against incoming topspin) relative to MX-P. More control and a bit slower than MX-P.

Mind you, these attributes are with MJ as the blade. Not sure how it is with other blades.

Also there is no easy access to spin on these rubbers, the topsheet might be thinner, but its way harder to crack it.

Most importantly they feel kind of numb and I like having feedback on a rubber.

Too much unnecessary controversy here.

Fact is that these new gen rubbers mostly have lower throw and more catapult than previous gens, hence they perform better for counter-looping and short stroke counter play at the table. Looping underspin is worse. But some are still very different to each other, so it's not appropriate to judge them alltogether.

I tried Aurus Select, Z1 and Rasanter R47. First two are medium-low throw, R47 is med to med-high, but that one felt like cardboard, slow and not much spin. Had them from a test set of a local shop, who knows how old they were. I liked Z1 best.

I would say nittaku fastarc G-1 is probably one of the best alternative for Tenergy 05. Its advantage over tenergy is the fact that it's very linear because of the hard sponge. 

Crazy amount of spin on hard loops but tenergy is still better at slow-spinny topspin

Other users have similar experiences?

stick with vega pro it's hte best. 

- fastest when flat hit?

- fastest when looping against backspin?

- lowest throw angle?

garwor wrote: Yesterday  I tried first time andro rasanter r47 2.0 (at this moment it's rubber with best score on ttdb), looks too soft and slow for fh on andro treiber K blade(which is on softer side also). Good maybe for bh, also good for short/touch pushes. Good spin, but generaly produces weak shots. Still I didn't resolve throw angle, is it high or low, looks on harder shots throw is lower than on over the table loops. Other users have similar experiences?

Some thoughts and data, based on my experience.

I'm an attacker, two wings looper, I have been playing for almost 4 years.

My setup is: Viscaria FL, Rasanter R47 2.0 on forehand, R42 2.0 on backhand.

Nowadays, I'm experimenting a bit with the Omega VII Pro and I'd like to share my opinions.

Data:

Rasanter R47 red 2.0 cut on Viscaria, with 2 glue layers, weights 46g.

Omega VII Pro black 2.0, uncut is 64g, cut on Viscaria should be around 46g (the leftover is 18g).

I've tried the O7P for 1 session, 3 hours training, during which I made a friendly tournament with my teammates. So I did 20 minutes warm up and 3 tough matches with it. On bh I had Omega VII Euro 2.0 red.

O7P was glued with one thick layer on it and one onto the blade.

At the touch, the rubber seemed a little bit softer overall than the R47.

Speed: R47 faster than 07P

Spin, counterlooping: R47>O7P counterlooping is spinnier with R47, also it lands always on the table with bigger catapult

Spin, looping underspin: R47>O7P easier to lift heavy underspin balls with R47 compared to Omega 7 Pro, and the ball is spinnier with R47, more difficult to block for the opponent

Topspin Drives: R47 clearly better than O7P, I had to put a lot of efforts to produce power with O7P

Spin on Serves: O7P a bit spinnier than R47

Flip over the table: O7P better than R47, given the slight better control of the O7P over the R47

Blocking: O7P better than R47

Control: O7P slight better than R47

Flat hits: R47 slightly faster than O7P

Throw: R47 has lower throw than O7P in topspin drives, higher throw in counterlooping.

Let me say that overall the O7P was a bit of a disappointment for me. A friend of mine told me to reglue it and try it again. What I noticed immediatedly, is the lack of power compared to R47: the O7P has a worse Power/Weight ratio than R47. I'm not sure this could be related only to the 1 layer glue method.

Anyway, I'll try it again and in the meantime I'm going to order the Gewo Nexxus EL PRO 48 to compare to them too.

One thing that really annoys me on the R47 is the fact that the topsheet wears very rapidly, and I should replace the rubber every 30 days or less to keep the spin and speed at good level.

On the contrary the Omega VII series topsheets seem more durable, my previous omega VII Euro black kept shining for one month while the R47 lost its shininess in ten days...this is one of the reasons why I'm not considering the Z1 (the other being the weight).

At the end I could use the O7P on the backhand thus improving on block and cut's spin respect R42/O7E.

That's all!!!

Rhyzer 48 doesnt have so soft topsheet as bluestorm/what i like- the tottaly soft topsheet on bluestorm causes the unlinear behaviour/.

Be carefull, rhyzer 48 is very fast-its dangerous weapon on off blades./also dangerous for owner:)/

Update here.

I have reglued the O7P, this time using two layers of Revo3 on the rubber and one on the Viscaria.

The result is much better, now I'm enjoying the rubber very much: I found the power, the precision and the spin. Counter topspin fantastic! I'd say very limited differences from R47. I'll give other training sessions to confirm today's impressions but I believe I'll keep it and I'll wait to come back to R47.

The first time I glued with Freechack Pro then left the racket on the press for 1 hour, 1 layer on both rubber and blade. This time I left on the press for 8 hours. I doubt the result is different because of the glue, probably it's the glue process which was unlucky the first time.

OT. On the backhand I tried the EL-S 1.9/2.0mm. Previously I used the R42 2.0 and for two sessions the Omega VII Euro 2.0. The result was bad. The weight of the EL-S changed the balance of the racket, resulting in a lot of balls hit with the edges. Also I couldn't feel the ball on the loop against backspin..I felt I had a brick instead of a rubber...I'll come back to O7E and when worn out probably I'll go to Andro V42, since everyone keeps saying it is "the perfect backhand rubber".

Usually when I glue a new rubber I cut it before (using a square of double sided tape to keep everything in place) and put at least 5 layers of (water based) glue on the sponge. It takes a whole day. 

Then I use 1 layer of rubber cement on the sponge and another one on the blade and finally attach both.

Last three months, I had been playing with O7P 2.0 that a friend had ripped from his blade and given it to me in exchange for MX-P. To get it a few mm bigger in size, I had to boost it.

Two days ago, I tried O7P max both sides on the same blade. Felt a bit different - topsheet felt relatively stiff and a bit tougher to generate spin with.

So, either this rubber has a break-in period, or, more likely, unlike any other non-Chinese rubber I've tried, boosting brings this rubber to God Mode. I have not seen such results with T05 boosted or MX-P boosted.

Another positive: this rubber is at least 2-3 times as durable as MX-P. Normally, boosted rubbers last a month for me. This one lasted three and I can still very comfortably use it for another 2 if I want (it is on my practice blade now).

More likely, instead of max, I'll use boosted 2.0 from now on (for better control because I use a OFF ZLC blade).

Overall, this is the 2nd best new-gen rubber I have tried (I'd put the O7Pro a shade ahead, especially when boosted). 

If you compare rasanter v42 vs xiom omega vii eu.

Is not too low throw with rasanter v42 in comparison xiom omega vii eu?

Why did you choose r42 vs v42?

I have been playing with omega vii eu for 2 hours, and I am quite satisfied. I switched from rhyzer 43, which was marginally faster and harder.

Dunno if it's for me. Anyway.

Backhand time. Bit OT.

While I'm quite stable with the Nexxus EL Pro 48 on fh, I'm still undecided what to use on bh.

Currently with EL PRO 43 I'm quite satisfied except brushing topspins (opener topspins) which I'd desire spinnier and with more solid contact. This rubber feels a bit slippery indeed. On topspin loops it is very good instead, a lot of power and feeling.

The O7E (I've used it for two months) on the contrary is better on opener topspins, while it lacks a bit of power on topspin loops. Highly durable, one of the best.

The R42 is the best of both worlds but the topsheet degrades too quickly, quicker than O7E for sure. The EL PRO 43 is still on test but seems durable as well as O7E.

A lot of people suggest me to have a rubber on backhand that excels in blocks, cuts and flat hits, so I thought about the V42, given the reviews from the best contributors here and from TTD. So I was curious about it.

R42 vs O7E (your first question):

R42 a bit spinnier then O7E

O7E higher throw than R42

R42 a bit faster than O7E

O7E better control than R42, banana flicks very easy to execute

Maybe we could open a thread regarding the new gen 42-43 deg rubbers for backhand

After trying out O7Pro and Nexxus EL48, I shall take Rhyzer 48 off my 'recommended' list. R48 has too soft a topsheet, IMHO.

Disadvantage of the O7Pro is that when you hit hard, throw 'collapses'. However, this is generally not a factor and I like it much more than MX-P (which is relatively not as grippy with the ABS ball). O7Pro also has more dwell than MX-P and is an easier rubber to use.

Two notes on the Nexxus EL48: Unlike some reports, I found it excellent in the short game and found it to have very good spin on serves. FWIW, serve is by far the strongest part of my game and for some weird reason, my serves are generally stronger more effective with non-chinese rubber than with H3 Neo.

How to choose between the Nexxus EL48 and the O7P? It depends on what throw you want. If you want high throw, choose the former. For medium throw, choose the latter.

Both are excellent on carbon blades with limba outers.