97g Avalox P500 : Keep it?
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Topic: 97g Avalox P500 : Keep it?
Posted By: icontek
Subject: 97g Avalox P500 : Keep it?
Date Posted: 10/15/2019 at 5:48pm
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Just got one at this absurd weight. These are usually 85g blades, and I was expecting a blade in the 82-88g. It's 5g heavier than my (heavy enough) OSP U2. When I ordered, I was looking for was something that has a similar wood feel, but a notch faster and more stable for blocking and flat hitting than my 1990's vintage Yasaka Gatien Extra. -The Gatien Extra is soft, flexible and light. I was looking for something that has similar speed, but more linear power delivery than my OSP U2. The U2 has an interesting 2nd gear that kicks in when you switch from short game to playing at speed. That gear makes the blade a joy to serve and attack, but also to apply pressure from mid distance. -The U2 is soft, medium firm, and heavy. Although I like the centered balance of the blade, I am concerned about wrist speed and wear and tear on my joints carrying those extra grams. On paper, this blade is a good replacement for the Virtuoso I used for celluloid balls. But that blade was @87g The question is, do I keep the 97g P500 or send it back and try to get something in the 88g range? I'm probably going to put Tibhar K1 Hybrid Max on the FH and Rasant 1.7mm on the backhand. Rasant is pretty heavy, and K1 is not, but I'm hoping the thickness difference make the head balance smooth for transitions... ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/15/2019 at 7:10pm
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icontek wrote:Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/15/2019 at 8:14pm
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Wow, that's heavy, I've never seen one anywhere near that heavy. It wasn't ordered from China, was it? there's still a Chinese manufacturer that makes these blades, and sells them as genuine Avalox blades. ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 10/15/2019 at 9:26pm
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Nope. I got it from tabletennis11.com - It has the Avallo/AVX branding on the blade printing that the original company uses. It also says made in Sweden. Finish on it is nice. Similar to the finish on the last C555 I bought from OOAK. Not rough like the P500 I bought from Diego at Alphatabletennis back in 2009. ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
Posted By: vik2000
Date Posted: 10/16/2019 at 1:17am
| I wish TT11 allows the buyer to specify a weight range. |
Posted By: AfroBro
Date Posted: 10/16/2019 at 2:50am
| They usually do don't they? I've emailed them before ordering any blade and they sent a list of what's in stock. That way you can pick exactly what you want. |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/16/2019 at 6:22am
Very curious, all the p500 I've ever seen have that sanded finish that you find on many Sweden-made blades, unlike the C555 which has a very varnished finished. OOAK has some in as recent as earlier this year, and they finish was identical to the older ones. ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: notfound123
Date Posted: 10/16/2019 at 8:16am
Of course they do.. If I order for my kid, I usually ask them to give me the lightest blade X in stock.. and they always do
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Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 10/16/2019 at 10:21am
I stopped using avalox since the last blade I got lacked touch. I dont know if there are still users that are hapoy with the latest models if current blades have the same feeling of the old blades
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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 10/16/2019 at 10:48am
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Hi, have you tried to kiln dry it by leaving it close to the furnace in a very dry and warm environment? You might lose 10 grams if, like I think, that thing is glutted with water. edit: then it might play powerful and crisp; note that if you invest weight on your fh while chosing the light AK47 red or blue for the bh, you might end up with an average 185g setup; maybe less if 10g is what the drying will save. ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: juanma4080
Date Posted: 10/16/2019 at 5:25pm
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Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 10/16/2019 at 6:21pm
Was your account hacked and now you are posting symbols? Also, to the individual who suggested kiln drying - how would i dry it evenly to prevent warping? ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 10/16/2019 at 8:59pm
This is not rough like the Stiga Allround and OC's of 2006-2011. It is a clean finish with no rough edges. I requested blade lacquering from tt11 but I can't see any visible coating at the neck or handle line. the blade surface is machine smooth though.
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Posted By: JustANoob
Date Posted: 10/17/2019 at 10:00am
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Between the p500 and xiom fuga, they both seem to have the same construction. Can anyone compare them , reason to go with p500 over the fuga ? |
Posted By: BeaverMD
Date Posted: 10/17/2019 at 12:52pm
What some would do is keep it for a some time, then put it in the For Sale section stating it was handpicked by a professional due to the powerful weight, or say it's a pro version or something along those lines  So in that sense, I admire you for being ethical.As for weight, I tell clubmates two things: first, go with their preferred number and go only plus or minus 2g. Second, pay attention to the balance as I have seen for example a 92g blade feel lighter than an 85g just due to being better balanced. If you are using the CNT textbook set up of H3N and Tenergy, 97g seems too much.
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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/17/2019 at 1:08pm
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huh, I actually had text in my post when I posted it. I remember poster BES bought one that was 82g, then bought one as a backup and it was like literally 100g. So much for the fabled avalox QC. I just bought a bunch of avalox stuff through globe, and I kind of wonder if they don't have a Chinese and Western separation in their offerings. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: DLC1325
Date Posted: 10/18/2019 at 1:45am
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TT11 will always meet weight requests. I've sent them more weight requests than I care to admit and they always deliver. Also, their lacquering is usually very thin, sometimes even disappearing after the first rubber removal. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75309" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/18/2019 at 4:48am
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Posted By: vanjr
Date Posted: 10/18/2019 at 6:11am
Agree. That interview o the OOAK forum is very interesting. Recommend.
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Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 10/18/2019 at 4:02pm
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I read the article long ago, which is why I have only purchased Avalox products from Diego at AlphaTT (us Avalox distrubutor and from Haggis at OOAK). But I was placing a decent size order for accessories from TT11 and figured I'd pick up another of these blades and see how they played with the plastic ball. But if the packaging is marked Avalox, and my blade is face is Marked Avalox AVX, and the handle inserts are marked Avalox, is this the same as Avallo AVX? Or does Avalox AVX mean that they tried to copy Avallo AVX and screwed up? ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
Posted By: juanma4080
Date Posted: 10/22/2019 at 10:36am
| keep it |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/26/2019 at 7:29pm
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there you have it, the verdict is in ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 10/27/2019 at 12:40am
So alphatt and tt11 only sells copies?
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Posted By: fmarek
Date Posted: 10/27/2019 at 4:21am
They do. Just message them and ask if they have weight you need. They will hand select precisely that weight or will let you know wha tis the closest. Then you can pay. To the OP: obviously do not keep it! You do not want to play above 195g racket, right? As this will damage your shoulder, wrist or elbow. That is guaranteed. ------------- 729 Green Goblin 5, FH: 729 Battle II National H39, BH: Palio HK1997 Gold. DHS Long 5, FH: 729 Battle II Gold H40, BH: Nittaku C1 |
Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 10/29/2019 at 10:41am
After much deliberation, I decided to send it back. The lightest replacement they could offer was 89g and that sounds too solid for what I want. But I found an 87g from Diego at AlphaTT, and I'm waiting for some Donic water based sealer to finish it off. The blade markings look identical to the Tabletennis11 version (Avalox AVX, not the older Avalox or Avallo AVX) so I'm pretty secure that both are legit. Thanks for all the feedback! ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |