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Topic: Sidespin in BHs
Posted By: blahness
Subject: Sidespin in BHs
Date Posted: 11/20/2019 at 8:00am
I tried to hit pure topspin BHs and it failed horribly.  the contact just seems foreign to me and I missed so much :( and my partners all told me my old sidespinny BH was better because it had a lot more curve in it which made receiving much harder, and somehow it's more powerful than the pure topspin BH. 

I think I'll just give up and focus on developing my sidespinny BH....

Does anyone here loop with mostly pure topspin on the BH?




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Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: 11/20/2019 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

I tried to hit pure topspin BHs and it failed horribly.  the contact just seems foreign to me and I missed so much :( and my partners all told me my old sidespinny BH was better because it had a lot more curve in it which made receiving much harder, and somehow it's more powerful than the pure topspin BH. 

I think I'll just give up and focus on developing my sidespinny BH....

Does anyone here loop with mostly pure topspin on the BH?



Only as a variation.  Normally, I try to add some sidespin to make the bounce harder to read.

ILya


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Posted By: vanjr
Date Posted: 11/20/2019 at 2:05pm
When someone is first learning you certainly want them to learn pure topspin rather than side top. However unless someone can technically coach you to a more pure topspin BH, then it is much better to hit a quality top-side BH than a weaker pure topspin BH.


Posted By: serr
Date Posted: 11/20/2019 at 2:57pm
I think sideloop is better especially if you add corkscrew. I often miss the ball completely if I don't notice opponent's contact with the side.


Posted By: bars
Date Posted: 11/20/2019 at 5:23pm
theyre 2 different shots. its nice too have both. they do different things


Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/21/2019 at 7:36am
Originally posted by bars bars wrote:

theyre 2 different shots. its nice too have both. they do different things

I guess yeah it'll be good to have that variation....


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Hurricane Long 5

FH: Hurricane 3 Provincial Blue Sponge
BH: Hurricane 3 Provincial Orange Sponge


Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 11/21/2019 at 8:51am
hi blahness. I am on the same train. After trying for ages to develop a strong BH top spin something went wrong and now I have this really nasty and curvy side spin. All my partners and opponents say that it is very difficult to deal with and I must use it more often. I guess it is my extensive wrist action

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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/21/2019 at 8:57am
Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

hi blahness. I am on the same train. After trying for ages to develop a strong BH top spin something went wrong and now I have this really nasty and curvy side spin. All my partners and opponents say that it is very to deal with and I must use it more often. I guess it is my extensive wrist action

Same here lol....I guess for me it's watching too much ZJK and developing  a strong chiquita early on that did it for me. My BH loop is pretty much a larger version of the chiquita LOL


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Posted By: pitigoi
Date Posted: 11/21/2019 at 9:15am
This discussion is about opening a back-spinning ball, right?

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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 11/21/2019 at 9:30am
Originally posted by pitigoi pitigoi wrote:

This discussion is about opening a back-spinning ball, right?

It's generalised. For opening loops I feel like the sidespinny action is even better because it wraps around the ball better giving me more control. Pure topspin is only sort of viable during topspin rally battles...


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FH: Hurricane 3 Provincial Blue Sponge
BH: Hurricane 3 Provincial Orange Sponge



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