Do ABS Balls Improve Blades?
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Topic: Do ABS Balls Improve Blades?
Posted By: icontek
Subject: Do ABS Balls Improve Blades?
Date Posted: 11/24/2019 at 10:09pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIMfNM54n0s&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow - Vladi talks about how in the 90's player would have 1 blade (speedglue made the rubbers a good fit). But with plastic ball, Vladi says he has 4 blades that he can switch between... Have other folks noticed that some of their blades which were too fast during celluloid era are now more useful/better? I remember with the spin on celluloid 40mm balls that the clipper, and even the wiry kick of the Avalox P500 was too fast for me to attack consistently. Now, the Clipper feels slow and controlled, and the P500 feels like a very good balance of power to feel and control. Even carbon blades like the Timo Boll ALC seem like "control blades" with the ABS balls. Did anyone else notice notice this effect? ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/24/2019 at 10:52pm
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Is it possible that you got better since the end of the celluloid era? ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 11/24/2019 at 11:06pm
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Yes, ABS plastic balls require you to use faster and possibly spinnier equipment. I couldn't use blades as fast as the Boll ALC before and I use them (Hadraw VR, Carbonado 190) now. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 11/25/2019 at 3:30am
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Rather than the ABS ball, players have been moving EJing blades ever since the glue ban in late 2008. ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: timoboll89
Date Posted: 11/25/2019 at 7:12am
| i think vladi does this because every ball model is different from each other |
Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 11/25/2019 at 8:37am
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Water based glue destroys blade much faster than old VOC glue. ------------- InfinityVPS - D80 - D05 |
Posted By: Charlie Brown
Date Posted: 11/25/2019 at 10:46am
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yup..i find an older setup Xiom ------------- *sigh* |
Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 12/25/2019 at 5:16pm
I don't disagree that the ban caused EJing. But you miss my point: A bunch of blades were wayyyy too fast to use without speedglued rubber (because speedglue added spin and control) .. Yet many of those same blades now seem to play more controlled with the ABS balls. ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
zeio wrote:Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 12/25/2019 at 5:51pm
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One thing about the newer gen ABS ball is that it is SO DMAN EASIER to hit through spinny balls... whether you are re-looping it or crushing it or punching it. That might make it feel like previous bat is now better... since you are encouraged by good feeling and better results to play more aggressive... which is usually better when you land the ball. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 12/25/2019 at 7:16pm
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Are all new balls ABS ------------- Ulmo Duality,Donic BlueGrip C2 red max ,Yinhe Super Kim Ox Black NZ table tennis selector, third in the World (plate Doubles)I'm Listed on the ITTF website |
Posted By: DonnOlsen
Date Posted: 12/25/2019 at 8:18pm
I have never heard of this before. ------------- Tenergy: Two weeks of heaven, followed by three months of excellence, then, a nice rubber. |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 12/25/2019 at 8:50pm
Do you mean all non-cell balls? No, not all plastic are abs. If you mean all new types going forward, good question. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: mykonos96
Date Posted: 12/25/2019 at 11:04pm
Said by otcharov and liu shiwen
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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 12/25/2019 at 11:24pm
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It's been talked about here more than once for sure. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 12/29/2019 at 8:22pm
This. Backhand flicks are now easy. ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |