Hurricane 8 vs Hurricane 3 Provincial Blue Sponge
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Topic: Hurricane 8 vs Hurricane 3 Provincial Blue Sponge
Posted By: blahness
Subject: Hurricane 8 vs Hurricane 3 Provincial Blue Sponge
Date Posted: 12/15/2019 at 6:54pm
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Was wondering if played unboosted, which one is better on the FH?
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FH: Hurricane 8-80
BH: D05
Back to normal shape bats :(
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Posted By: ProtossTT
Date Posted: 12/15/2019 at 6:57pm
 blahness wrote:
Was wondering if played unboosted, which one is better on the FH?
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Get the h3 neo provincial blue sponge best hands down. I play both boosted and unboosted
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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 12/15/2019 at 7:09pm
ProtossTT wrote:
blahness wrote:
Was wondering if played unboosted, which one is better on the FH?
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Get the h3 neo provincial blue sponge best hands down. I play both boosted and unboosted |
I tried my friend's blue sponge and it was really amazing in terms of the spin and control compared to the Hurricane 8 (also feels lighter?!), was that your experience as well?
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Viscaria
FH: Hurricane 8-80
BH: D05
Back to normal shape bats :(
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Posted By: ProtossTT
Date Posted: 12/15/2019 at 7:30pm
blahness wrote:
ProtossTT wrote:
blahness wrote:
Was wondering if played unboosted, which one is better on the FH?
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Get the h3 neo provincial blue sponge best hands down. I play both boosted and unboosted |
I tried my friend's blue sponge and it was really amazing in terms of the spin and control compared to the Hurricane 8 (also feels lighter?!), was that your experience as well? |
Yes much lighter and spin!!!!
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Posted By: bars
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 12:46am
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neo will have more action for you
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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 1:49am
bars wrote:
neo will have more action for you |
You mean hurricane 3 neo provincial blue sponge?
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Viscaria
FH: Hurricane 8-80
BH: D05
Back to normal shape bats :(
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Posted By: vik2000
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 10:13am
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If you aren't boosting, you might as well play the neo version.
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Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 1:36pm
I dont boost and prefer H8 (40 degree) over H3 Prov Blue Neo. I know I'm the minority but I like the elasticity of H8. It could be that my experience with H8 vs H3 has been using penhold.
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Posted By: 3000.artists
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 5:25pm
same with the pen holder above, the stickiness of h8 makes it better imo. Lately, everything else I’ve gotten from dhs has been completely non sticky out the pack. 5 sheets, 3 skylines, 2 hurricanes (neo and blue sponge)- all felt like hard sponge euros.. if only dhs would make a skyline 8- a touch stickier and a touch lighter, but perfection may be too much to ask
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Posted By: guni4you
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 5:31pm
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Do CNT team players like ma long use hurricane 3 both sides? Or do they use something like hurricane 3 top sheet but a tensor sponge?
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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 5:31pm
jpenmaster wrote:
I dont boost and prefer H8 (40 degree) over H3 Prov Blue Neo. I know I'm the minority but I like the elasticity of H8. It could be that my experience with H8 vs H3 has been using penhold.
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Could you elaborate on that, especially in terms of spin production?
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Viscaria
FH: Hurricane 8-80
BH: D05
Back to normal shape bats :(
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Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 9:51pm
The provincial blue sponge is built to soak booster. If you are noticing good speed and EASY spin on a buddies setup (if the rubber plays almost ESN like, with decent power when out of position / or during imperfect stroke production) then it's likely a boosted blue.
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Posted By: ProtossTT
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 10:27pm
guni4you wrote:
Do CNT team players like ma long use hurricane 3 both sides? Or do they use something like hurricane 3 top sheet but a tensor sponge? |
Only a few do that like Ma Long others use a tensor or a custom spec'd tensor. I tried it and it works got a 37, 39, and even the new h3 neo hard it actually plays well boosted that is. Ma Long uses a 42+ degree blue sponge, but boosted down 2 or so degrees (whatever his liking his) and then for his backhand a softer sponge, but boosted slightly less otherwise it'll get too mushy which happens to any soft rubber if boosted heavily.
Also the reason why I prefer the h3 neo blue sponges is due to the lighter weight in comparison to h8. H8's weight reminds me of the sanwei national Target 40+. I personally like that over the h8. Both heavy rubber's but I have had better quality control experience with Sanwei national Target 40+. So if somehow he neo blue sponge were to be unavailable at one point Sanwei would be my back up or Dianchi super D which is a slightly slower rubber of h3 neo
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Posted By: guni4you
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 11:18pm
Do you have any idea how many layers would Ma long be using for the 42 hardness blue sponge and 37 orange sponge for backhand?
ProtossTT wrote:
guni4you wrote:
Do CNT team players like ma long use hurricane 3 both sides? Or do they use something like hurricane 3 top sheet but a tensor sponge? |
Only a few do that like Ma Long others use a tensor or a custom spec'd tensor. I tried it and it works got a 37, 39, and even the new h3 neo hard it actually plays well boosted that is. Ma Long uses a 42+ degree blue sponge, but boosted down 2 or so degrees (whatever his liking his) and then for his backhand a softer sponge, but boosted slightly less otherwise it'll get too mushy which happens to any soft rubber if boosted heavily.
Also the reason why I prefer the h3 neo blue sponges is due to the lighter weight in comparison to h8. H8's weight reminds me of the sanwei national Target 40+. I personally like that over the h8. Both heavy rubber's but I have had better quality control experience with Sanwei national Target 40+. So if somehow he neo blue sponge were to be unavailable at one point Sanwei would be my back up or Dianchi super D which is a slightly slower rubber of h3 neo
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Posted By: ProtossTT
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 11:22pm
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For all I know he could be using a 50 degree sponge. I don't think anyone could quite answer that question lol that's classified to the coach and player only. For the backhand about 2 layers for me worked wonders. I'm guessing he does a light layer as well as stated before the softer sponges get too mushy if overboosted.
guni4you wrote:
Do you have any idea how many layers would Ma long be using for the 42 hardness blue sponge and 37 orange sponge for backhand?
ProtossTT wrote:
guni4you wrote:
Do CNT team players like ma long use hurricane 3 both sides? Or do they use something like hurricane 3 top sheet but a tensor sponge? |
Only a few do that like Ma Long others use a tensor or a custom spec'd tensor. I tried it and it works got a 37, 39, and even the new h3 neo hard it actually plays well boosted that is. Ma Long uses a 42+ degree blue sponge, but boosted down 2 or so degrees (whatever his liking his) and then for his backhand a softer sponge, but boosted slightly less otherwise it'll get too mushy which happens to any soft rubber if boosted heavily.
Also the reason why I prefer the h3 neo blue sponges is due to the lighter weight in comparison to h8. H8's weight reminds me of the sanwei national Target 40+. I personally like that over the h8. Both heavy rubber's but I have had better quality control experience with Sanwei national Target 40+. So if somehow he neo blue sponge were to be unavailable at one point Sanwei would be my back up or Dianchi super D which is a slightly slower rubber of h3 neo
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Posted By: guni4you
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 11:24pm
Which booster do you use?And how long does the effect last?
ProtossTT wrote:
For all I know he could be using a 50 degree sponge. I don't think anyone could quite answer that question lol that's classified to the coach and player only. For the backhand about 2 layers for me worked wonders. I'm guessing he does a light layer as well as stated before the softer sponges get too mushy if overboosted.
guni4you wrote:
Do you have any idea how many layers would Ma long be using for the 42 hardness blue sponge and 37 orange sponge for backhand?
ProtossTT wrote:
guni4you wrote:
Do CNT team players like ma long use hurricane 3 both sides? Or do they use something like hurricane 3 top sheet but a tensor sponge? |
Only a few do that like Ma Long others use a tensor or a custom spec'd tensor. I tried it and it works got a 37, 39, and even the new h3 neo hard it actually plays well boosted that is. Ma Long uses a 42+ degree blue sponge, but boosted down 2 or so degrees (whatever his liking his) and then for his backhand a softer sponge, but boosted slightly less otherwise it'll get too mushy which happens to any soft rubber if boosted heavily.
Also the reason why I prefer the h3 neo blue sponges is due to the lighter weight in comparison to h8. H8's weight reminds me of the sanwei national Target 40+. I personally like that over the h8. Both heavy rubber's but I have had better quality control experience with Sanwei national Target 40+. So if somehow he neo blue sponge were to be unavailable at one point Sanwei would be my back up or Dianchi super D which is a slightly slower rubber of h3 neo
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Posted By: ProtossTT
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 11:28pm
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I used to use haifu but just use trf from Europe or Falco yes those aren't the best or ideal for it, but for me and many other players it does more than enough. Falco goes the longest for a few months, but I haven't noticed a drop in performance yet for my first setup I boosted 7 months ago. I think Falco states about a month or two before reboosting if necessary though. Nowadays I just boost once with Falco and keep playing until I destroy the top sheet. It'll soften up for the most part in the long run plus the blade gets slightly softer or less crisper from gluing. I could care less I still use the blades for awhile until I buy more lol
guni4you wrote:
Which booster do you use?And how long does the effect last?
ProtossTT wrote:
For all I know he could be using a 50 degree sponge. I don't think anyone could quite answer that question lol that's classified to the coach and player only. For the backhand about 2 layers for me worked wonders. I'm guessing he does a light layer as well as stated before the softer sponges get too mushy if overboosted.
guni4you wrote:
Do you have any idea how many layers would Ma long be using for the 42 hardness blue sponge and 37 orange sponge for backhand?
ProtossTT wrote:
guni4you wrote:
Do CNT team players like ma long use hurricane 3 both sides? Or do they use something like hurricane 3 top sheet but a tensor sponge? |
Only a few do that like Ma Long others use a tensor or a custom spec'd tensor. I tried it and it works got a 37, 39, and even the new h3 neo hard it actually plays well boosted that is. Ma Long uses a 42+ degree blue sponge, but boosted down 2 or so degrees (whatever his liking his) and then for his backhand a softer sponge, but boosted slightly less otherwise it'll get too mushy which happens to any soft rubber if boosted heavily.
Also the reason why I prefer the h3 neo blue sponges is due to the lighter weight in comparison to h8. H8's weight reminds me of the sanwei national Target 40+. I personally like that over the h8. Both heavy rubber's but I have had better quality control experience with Sanwei national Target 40+. So if somehow he neo blue sponge were to be unavailable at one point Sanwei would be my back up or Dianchi super D which is a slightly slower rubber of h3 neo
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Posted By: guni4you
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 11:37pm
How many layers of falco do you use on both backhand and forehand? I used haifu yellow oil and loved it but the effect was very short.Rubbers started to slow down and change a lot in about 2-3 weeks.
ProtossTT wrote:
I used to use haifu but just use trf from Europe or Falco yes those aren't the best or ideal for it, but for me and many other players it does more than enough. Falco goes the longest for a few months, but I haven't noticed a drop in performance yet for my first setup I boosted 7 months ago. I think Falco states about a month or two before reboosting if necessary though. Nowadays I just boost once with Falco and keep playing until I destroy the top sheet. It'll soften up for the most part in the long run plus the blade gets slightly softer or less crisper from gluing. I could care less I still use the blades for awhile until I buy more lol
guni4you wrote:
Which booster do you use?And how long does the effect last?
ProtossTT wrote:
For all I know he could be using a 50 degree sponge. I don't think anyone could quite answer that question lol that's classified to the coach and player only. For the backhand about 2 layers for me worked wonders. I'm guessing he does a light layer as well as stated before the softer sponges get too mushy if overboosted.
guni4you wrote:
Do you have any idea how many layers would Ma long be using for the 42 hardness blue sponge and 37 orange sponge for backhand?
ProtossTT wrote:
guni4you wrote:
Do CNT team players like ma long use hurricane 3 both sides? Or do they use something like hurricane 3 top sheet but a tensor sponge? |
Only a few do that like Ma Long others use a tensor or a custom spec'd tensor. I tried it and it works got a 37, 39, and even the new h3 neo hard it actually plays well boosted that is. Ma Long uses a 42+ degree blue sponge, but boosted down 2 or so degrees (whatever his liking his) and then for his backhand a softer sponge, but boosted slightly less otherwise it'll get too mushy which happens to any soft rubber if boosted heavily.
Also the reason why I prefer the h3 neo blue sponges is due to the lighter weight in comparison to h8. H8's weight reminds me of the sanwei national Target 40+. I personally like that over the h8. Both heavy rubber's but I have had better quality control experience with Sanwei national Target 40+. So if somehow he neo blue sponge were to be unavailable at one point Sanwei would be my back up or Dianchi super D which is a slightly slower rubber of h3 neo
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Posted By: ProtossTT
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 11:42pm
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Unfortunately none of us are Ma Long let alone part of the Chinese National team or high enough in that epsilon of players to ever get a custom made brick sponge. The most I've seen is 42. I personally can switch between 40 and 41 using 3 layers of booster. 37 I only use 1.5 basically a nice first layer then a lighter layer much thinner for the last. Falco softens it quite alot so you don't want to overdo it.
guni4you wrote:
How many layers of falco do you use on both backhand and forehand? I used haifu yellow oil and loved it but the effect was very short.Rubbers started to slow down and change a lot in about 2-3 weeks.
ProtossTT wrote:
I used to use haifu but just use trf from Europe or Falco yes those aren't the best or ideal for it, but for me and many other players it does more than enough. Falco goes the longest for a few months, but I haven't noticed a drop in performance yet for my first setup I boosted 7 months ago. I think Falco states about a month or two before reboosting if necessary though. Nowadays I just boost once with Falco and keep playing until I destroy the top sheet. It'll soften up for the most part in the long run plus the blade gets slightly softer or less crisper from gluing. I could care less I still use the blades for awhile until I buy more lol
guni4you wrote:
Which booster do you use?And how long does the effect last?
ProtossTT wrote:
For all I know he could be using a 50 degree sponge. I don't think anyone could quite answer that question lol that's classified to the coach and player only. For the backhand about 2 layers for me worked wonders. I'm guessing he does a light layer as well as stated before the softer sponges get too mushy if overboosted.
guni4you wrote:
Do you have any idea how many layers would Ma long be using for the 42 hardness blue sponge and 37 orange sponge for backhand?
ProtossTT wrote:
guni4you wrote:
Do CNT team players like ma long use hurricane 3 both sides? Or do they use something like hurricane 3 top sheet but a tensor sponge? |
Only a few do that like Ma Long others use a tensor or a custom spec'd tensor. I tried it and it works got a 37, 39, and even the new h3 neo hard it actually plays well boosted that is. Ma Long uses a 42+ degree blue sponge, but boosted down 2 or so degrees (whatever his liking his) and then for his backhand a softer sponge, but boosted slightly less otherwise it'll get too mushy which happens to any soft rubber if boosted heavily.
Also the reason why I prefer the h3 neo blue sponges is due to the lighter weight in comparison to h8. H8's weight reminds me of the sanwei national Target 40+. I personally like that over the h8. Both heavy rubber's but I have had better quality control experience with Sanwei national Target 40+. So if somehow he neo blue sponge were to be unavailable at one point Sanwei would be my back up or Dianchi super D which is a slightly slower rubber of h3 neo
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Posted By: guni4you
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 11:45pm
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And the performance with falco stays consistent for 1-2 months?
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Posted By: ProtossTT
Date Posted: 12/19/2019 at 11:49pm
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For me Soo far yes. Depends how often you play as well. Also if you really hate boosting after opening and gluing your new h3 neo blue sponge smack the s*** out of every ball and you can slightly soften the rubber up too lol. Your arms might hurt but you don't have boost every now and then haha just saying don't take my word for it completely
guni4you wrote:
And the performance with falco stays consistent for 1-2 months? |
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Posted By: guni4you
Date Posted: 12/20/2019 at 12:06am
Posted By: alas
Date Posted: 12/26/2019 at 12:51pm
icontek wrote:
The provincial blue sponge is built to soak booster. If you are noticing good speed and EASY spin on a buddies setup (if the rubber plays almost ESN like, with decent power when out of position / or during imperfect stroke production) then it's likely a boosted blue.
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You can buy national and provincial rubbers pre boosted?? Any links or proof for this?
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DHS Skyline TG-2 NEO
DHS Skyline 3-60
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Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 12/26/2019 at 1:28pm
alas wrote:
icontek wrote:
If you are noticing good speed and EASY spin on a buddies setup (if the rubber plays almost ESN like, with decent power when out of position / or during imperfect stroke production) then it's likely a boosted blue.
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You can buy national and provincial rubbers pre boosted?? Any links or proof for this? |
He didn't say you can buy the rubber boosted, he Talked about a buddies set up. This would assume then that the buddy boosted the rubber.
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Posted By: alas
Date Posted: 12/26/2019 at 6:55pm
ah... sorry!
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Nittaku Acoustic (Ch.Pen)
DHS Skyline TG-2 NEO
DHS Skyline 3-60
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