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    Posted: 04/15/2007 at 2:56pm
I use this service sometimes in the later half of the match (as the main serves are known by now) . I perform the side spin + top spin or side + backspin serve . But I really did not see many people using it in club .

I find it very useful as the returns mostly come on my forehand for a good third ball attack .

I am finding some difficulty in creating a plain backspin serve . The reason is that the power in the serve is slow and it becomes unreliable .
Any tips on doing the backspin serve with this style .

Also when I serve my style is somewhat changed as I throw the ball up on my left (for fh pendulum its on the right) . How can I keep the same style for both .

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I also use this serve very often. i can do the pure backspin variation but it is very difficult to keep low, therefore i refrain from using it. I just stick to side-backspin and side-topspin.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Swiff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2007 at 6:38pm
I agree with Pip master.  It is very difficult to pull off a pure backspin pendelum.  You can do it though, just multi-ball practice a lot.
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I'm a lefty and use at least 50% reverse pendulum - see the schlager training video for ideas for generating more underspin (as opposed to sidespin) - in short, turn your wrist clockwise (like turning a screw) as you are executing to come more horizontally under the ball.  Also, study the counter-clockwise corkscrew variation, it is purely a matter of timing between underspin, underspin-sidespin, and corkspin.  Personally, I find sidespin easier than underspin this way - underspin and corkspin easier with a regular pendulum serve.  But best to practice and master all variations.  See the schlager video also for a feigned reverse, last millisecond pendulum corkspin serve, advanced!!! Shocked
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lol i do that feigned reverse very often, its actually quite easy once you get the hang of it, its a great surprise to the opponenet as well. they never expect it.
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I use this on like 75% of my serves, I'm also a lefty so when I do it people call it the "Timo boll serve" haha and almost 90% of the time when I use it , it flys off the table. Look at the michael maze training video. I don't know how to explain to do the  pure underspin but to say the wrist action is like throwing a frisbee, but just keep your elbow high so it doesnt hit the net.
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lol, so technically you win the point straight out wiht your serves 67.5% of the time =O
pretty cool, teach it to us :"]
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That is actually really bad on my part, because I am almost expectinng to win  the point by just serving and when it DOES come back I don't expect it, so I try to mix up all the serves or train my mind to think it will always come back.
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lol man, yer better then ma lin!
xD, what level players are you playing?
i hardly ever see ppl win from serves straight out, unless they are playing someone way below ehtier level lol
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Swiff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/16/2007 at 11:06am
hehe Can't lose a match when your opponent can't return serve!!!  I have a serve that I use 1-2 times a game (only in a stressful situation).  I chop heavy backspin serve a lot of times thruoghout the game and when I need a point.  I fake chop and end up serving a dead slightly topspin ball.  Pops it up every time.
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