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debraj
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Posted: 10/01/2007 at 3:17pm |
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i learnt table tennis at a young age, .. about 20 years back. back in India, I was lucky to get a coach... once national champion in India.
We were told what is rights and wrongs in technique.
- like while pushing (called chop in India) not to dig too much.. that's "WRONG"
- while looping (only called topspin in india) not to point the racquet head up... that's "WRONG"
- while chopping on loops (called "deep chop" in India) not to try side spin .. that's "GRAMATICALLY INCORRECT"
- in fact side-spin was a big "NO NO" except for playing pen grip or serving or away from table loop-on-loop.
After coming to US... i see everybody tries out everything .. which is GREAT .. and quite a few of them are in 2000 +
BUt it also makes me think... what was all that grammer for? :)
Let get some advise from the forum... on the techniques that you consider "faulty".
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cole_ely
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One I see a lot is blocking with the blade tip down. You often see this with people who are trying to cover the table with their backhand side to use their pips everywhere. If they get caught in bh position by a ball going to they're fh, they're forced to chicken wing it. It seems to me the pros always block with their racket tip up. The obvious exception being penholders.
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T h e N A M
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in Korea, and Korean people in US...
they call pushing as "cut"
is that really bad name for pusing..?
would you be able to understand when some body say "cut" for pushing..?
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kenneyy88
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A cut is any spin on a ball. Most people use it if they don't know topspin, bs, ss etc...
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In_this_pace
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There`s one thing that just makes me angry when I see it - when someone performs long forehand serve from his forehand corner. I just don`t get it!
Actually right and wrongs are hard to discuss. Many times I read and heard coaches of different levels, saying that Samsonov`s technique is full of mistakes ))) |
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debraj
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long forehand serve to opponents forehand? or backhand?
does it make you angry because opponent can loop it to the servers wide forehand side?
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theman
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use ue whole body for fh or bh, ie shoulder turn, hips, bend ur knees, which is somehting i need reminding everyday lol
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ErikaT
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i think nothing here is right or wrong...........
i feel that just use to what u used to play and play well will do
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In_this_pace
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It makes me angry that opponent serves long while his backhand corner is exposed. Suicidal self-confidence which I always dislike in people |
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O! Ju Qian
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eeeer....that is if they know what they're doing. If they understand what risk they are facing, then they will always be ready to return your attacks. Some players serve on the forehand side b/c they're very confident that they could counter attack it with their bh.
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In_this_pace
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Yeah, I`ve seen Wang Hao do this. But he served standing at the middle, not at his forehand. And yes, as he put strong sidespin, his opponent was forced to return slow ball to Wang Hao`s backhand, which is lethal. But it`s amateur or intermediate level what I`m talking about. |
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Wawaicetea123
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yea i just watched wang hao and yoshida kaii play a match and wang hao did a serve from the middle of the table on match point and then ripped a rpb. and kaiis fh was just ripping apart wang hao. but of corse wang hao pulled out a 11/6 victory in the 5th game. pretty exciting match tho.
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AVarun
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Sorry, but this was a serve I used all the time until about 5 years ago. And my rating still got to 1900 Canadian! I did not send it to the exact same spot on the opponent's forehand side, but it still went cross-court. Sometimes with moderate spin on it, most of the time with very little or no spin.
But it's true that strong players will quickly pick up that serve after a few initial mishandlings. And that's partly the reason I changed to a more sensible/conventional serving position, from the backhand side. I revert to the forehand-to-forehand serve only as a sudden variation, and it can be effective. As a sub-variation of this, I serve down the line from the forehand side to the other player's backhand. This proved to be the winning point against two fairly high level players (over 2200) recently. But no, it is not a wise regular serving tactic.
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AVarun
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Absolutely, same here! A further problem for me is timing. When looping, FH or BH, I find I'm often late with the right posture, which includes use of forearm, acceleration of arm, turning of waist and legs, and the feeling of weight transfer from the backfoot to the forefoot, particularly with forehand looping. Throw in racket angle and the right finish, which should in most cases be straight or foreword, not up, sideways or down, and you have a heady mixture of things to remember and coordinate!
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