Setup too heavy

roenie wrote: The Observer wrote: My blade is 100g and I use Tenergy on both sides, the whole thing weighs 190g. You got the numbers wrong I thought you might be right, so thinking perhaps my scales were bad, I went and bought new digital scales today. More expensive, <1g accuracy according to the manual. It weighs my setup at 193 grams. (instead of 200 like the other, lower quality scales said) It says my other Donic Burn Off- blade is 86g. That makes the one I have the rubbers attached to 87g, because it's 1g heavier (measured both before). That makes the Hexer 2.1mm rubbers ~51g each. 87 (blade) + 51 + 51 = 189 + ~4 (grip and edge tape) = 193. @The Observer: which version of Tenergy and thickness are you using?

Andro's response:

Every rubber that shall be delivered to a shop or a retailer as well as to a customer is getting checked by the factory very carefully. We do not deliver any rubbers that do not fulfill the highest quality standards.
Thus you can be sure that the rubbers that you are playing right now are rubbers of excellent quality and there should not be a bigger difference to other rubbers from the same model.

So finally we can say that the rubbers that you have should have the same stable characteristics than every other Hexer rubber on the world.

roenie wrote: Tinykin wrote: Joola Extreme from the late seventies with 729 faster and Mark V. Cool. That handle looks like it accounts for about half that weight!

bluebucket wrote: Where did that come from Andro China :)?? I've never seen a German with English like that.

The export / promotion department of schoeler-micke, written by a german employee.


Edited by roenie - 06/27/2013 at 7:52pm

Select a lighter Donic Burn off (I have one 84gr). You can ask tabletennis11 to help you with that. They are very helpful in my experience. So you can get 8gr off on the blade. 

Edited by ttping85 - 07/10/2013 at 4:16pm

I think I would seriously strain my shoulder or elbow if I had to play hours per day the style I do with a light bat, like say 180 grams or less. That is way too light. My swing and impact dynamics would be all wrong and it would wreck havoc on my body. Thank God my bats are 190 grams minimum with my preferred ones getting up around 210 grams with excellent balance and feel.

Roenie, I am a flexible all-out attacker, favor very heavy openers, powerloop if it is there. I am 87 kg and 172 cm height. It is all about starting the power and for me, it does not happen at all with a light bat, acceleration and feel are terrible with a light bat. I can bring the swing, heavy bat be damned, heavy feels better to me by far, but I need balance, never head heavy - that really sucks. Ask a top amature or a pro how they feel if suddenly, they had to play a match with a 175 gram bat, when they are normally using 200-210 gram bats... They will hate on you in a hurry. First things they will bitch about are feel and lack of power. A strong swinger can bring the heat with a heavy bat and for a pro, they crave the heaviest rubber and blade of their choice. There is a reason why they do that - that stuff performs better for them and they have the muscle fitness to cope with it.

Edited by BH-Man - 07/13/2013 at 6:14pm

After I cracked my M. Maze via swinging into a club member walking through my court while I was rallying in a point, (which I also had made 10 grams heavier the same way) I went to the much lighter 896 ALL+ looping blade getting a few of these blades in the upper 80s in grams.

My bat would be under 150grams, I get huge power

bluebucket wrote: The main benefit of heavier weight is consistency, it's just so much easier to swing the same speed and have accurate timing with a heavier bat. You can hit a ball plenty hard with a 150 grams balsa but not many will play as well with it as they will a 190 gram setup that pacifies their swing

I have a 5 ply blade (no balsa) and using heavier is not an issue but with ox pimple's on one side, blades will usually weigh less

there isn't that many 2400-2600 players for most mortals to try and compare themselves too, 

double post

Edited by Tinykin - 07/14/2013 at 6:51pm

After adding at least 8-10 grams to the handle area off my ALL+ looping blade, I am liking it MUCH better. The feel at impact is a LOT closer to what I am accustomed to and like. Speed of the ball is not quite like the TBS, but it is a LOT better and I will not be griping about the speed of the setup. Heck, the Arirang will be out soon anyway.

+1 to the post above.
I much prefer heavy and more solid-feeling blades over light ones.

assiduous wrote: when I order a new blade I leave a note to give me the heaviest they have and cancel the order if what they have is under 88gr. I had light and heavy Korbel, light and heavy Primorac, and still have light and heavy TBS, and the heavy blade is always more consistent. sometimes I try my friends paddles at the club and they are kind of light and I hate how it feels in high speed block or counter loop. if you have high speed rallies its kinda hard with light setup.

Absolutely. But asking for a heavy one doesn't always work if the blade is becoming scarce.  Certain Btfly blades are almost always out of stock and it seems they have been making a lot of lighter ones these days.  It can be frustrating.