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    Posted: 11/04/2012 at 4:47pm
This is amazing, 7 years old kids play competition using Shorter Table...




Should we train our kids using Normal table or this modified table?  Any suggestion?
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I don´t really think any of these kids were 7 y.o
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That was the midget TT league :)
 
 
Yes, i think it's a great idea similar to tennis where they use shorter racquets and smaller to half court play but the ball stays the same....great, great idea.


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They look so big at that table
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This is  a good question. I think this table is a good idea until they are maybe 8 years old or so. After that it's time for a standard table. I think the kid on the left is starting to outgrow this table.
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The support that the kids are getting is great!

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It's a good idea. Until they grow taller.

I also don't those kids are 7 year olds.
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they play better than me:)
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These kids look like giants LOL
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Purely out of interest, do they also have smaller bats for 7 year olds who play comps on small tables, I mean especially small, special bats, not just compact head shapes. And do kids like that usually have custom bats or premade?
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This was the final match for the 9-year-old category of the Hang Seng New Generation Contest 2010.  Both players are currently ranked no.3(winner of the match) and no.4 respectively in the U12 division in Hong Kong.  The contest is comprised of 3 categories, 7 and under, 8-year-old and 9-year-old.  Matches are played on tables at a height of 68cm(26.77in) as opposed to the standard 76cm(29.92in).

There is no way those kids are using premades.  They are all using standard-size rackets.  For comparison, below is a video how the no.3 buddy plays on a standard-height table.

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Are the tables just lower, or is the table surface smaller too than regular tables? Also, is the net the same height as a regular net?

I'm really interested in these smaller tables for training small kids, and I've never seen them before.

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Check out the DHS "Rising Star" table.  It is adjustable in height so it can be lowered for training children and then raised for standard height play.
 
One of the things that you see a lot with young children is that they have to play with the racket held way above their elbow (with the tip up) in order to get the racket above the height of the table.  This promotes a blocking/hitting style of play rather than a topspinning style.  If children are trained early on a regulation height table and develop this style, then they have to have some retraiing time once they get tall enough to use more standard topspinning technique.
 
On one of the other forums someone mentioned that they had been in China recently and were suprised to see a bunch of these lower height tables being used for training the very young players.  Apparently, when they had been there years before they did not see them being used.  This might be a new trend in training.
 
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Everything except the height of the tables are the same as the standard ones.

In China, the CTTA first considered about using lower tables for young children back in 1979 on reflections of coaches at amateur sports schools that the use of standard-height tables had led to incorrect strokes that severely impeded future progress.  The General Administration of Sports has since mandated that lower tables be used for Junior and Cadet competitions.  Going even further the regulatory body sets two heights of lower table: 68cm for U12 and 64cm for U10.
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What level of rating would their be equivalent to the US rating?
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Hung Ka Tak had an initial rating of 1800 when he turned 12 and he was at the top of the U12 division, so I bet those two should be close to that level, say 1700.

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Thanks for the answer zeio. It's pretty much what I thought... I wonder how long it is before we start seeing smaller bats for children?
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So is this 9 year old Chinese kids can play well on little table?
 not to be sarky but , it's just not the same of the op post
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Originally posted by lamb636 lamb636 wrote:

Thanks for the answer zeio. It's pretty much what I thought... I wonder how long it is before we start seeing smaller bats for children?

Yinhe and certain other brands do have smaller rackets for sale.  They are about 1/3 the size of regular rackets.  I still have one lying somewhere.  It was fun to play with the first few hits but soon after problems arose, namely the handle size, blade thickness, and weight.
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Originally posted by smackman smackman wrote:

So is this 9 year old Chinese kids can play well on little table?
 not to be sarky but , it's just not the same of the op post

Hmm...the second video is just some practice match so the involvement level is low for certain.  But it is clear the two in the video are having trouble keeping their serves on the table.  Their timing is off for half-long balls at head-level bounce, notably on the backhand side as they can't close the paddle angle enough.  These symptoms are not as apparent on lower tables.

Below is a match video for the current no.1 in U12(penhold lefty) vs. current no.5 in U15(was no.1 in U12 then) on regular tables.  Notice the penholder has to serve high on his toes to get sufficient clearance.  Other than that the two play like normal adults.  Near the end they are even capable of doing a counter-loop rally far from the table.


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+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zheyi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/07/2012 at 4:04am
I still prefer kids starts with big table for that feel of movement.. start at age 7-8 or 1.2m tall is appropriate.
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