suggestions for intro long pips setup

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bluehorseshoe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 06/11/2013 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 62	Post Options Post Reply Quote bluehorseshoe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: suggestions for intro long pips setup Posted: 07/01/2013 at 12:20pm
	Could anyone with experience with long pips offer a suggestion for a blade and LP rubber for someone that has never used long pips. Ideally, would like to still use the blade to loop and hit from the other side (my last two blades that I used regularly were Gergely and Zetro Quad). Not really planning on anything serious with it, but just to practice and understand it better, so it doesn't have to be the best, but something reasonable. Was considering maybe buying a TBS clone or a Galaxy T-9 (carbon only on one side), but really don't know where to start looking, especially with the rubber. Thanks in advance for any advice.

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silva7 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Member Joined: 03/14/2012 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 693	Post Options Post Reply Quote silva7 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07/01/2013 at 12:56pm
	umm maybe consider short pips. long pips is often used to chop not so much for hitting.
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bluehorseshoe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 06/11/2013 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 62	Post Options Post Reply Quote bluehorseshoe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07/01/2013 at 1:04pm
	I meant I wanted to be able to loop or hit from the non LP side. Sorry for the confusion.

nachalnik Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 09/05/2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 241	Post Options Post Reply Quote nachalnik Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07/01/2013 at 3:33pm
	Depends on a style you play. If you're a blocker you need a stiff blade for a maximum reversal. Many people use balsa blades that are medium to fast in speed like Donic Cayman or Dr. N. Firewall+. I know ttnpp.com used to have Cayman for $26. As for an LP rubber, in the beginning you'll need something relatively slow with high degree of control. Friendship 837 with no sponge (OX) comes to mind. There are a lot of discusssions on LPs on www.oneofakindtrading.com.au.

smackman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Assistant Moderator Joined: 07/20/2009 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 3264	Post Options Post Reply Quote smackman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07/01/2013 at 3:38pm
	something like 729 755 .6 would be a great allround long pips for you
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tt4me Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 01/17/2013 Location: RC Poverty Zone Status: Offline Points: 1019	Post Options Post Reply Quote tt4me Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07/01/2013 at 4:53pm
	My starter paddle 729 Bomb I wish this came in a straight handle Red Diamond Black Pogo 0X Pogo 0X is slower and easier to control than 755 0X. Cheap but the bang for the buck is extremely high. Buy at zeropong for less than $50. My current blocking paddle is a Firewall+ Only get a straight handle so twiddling is easy. T25 2.1mm black Giant Dragon Talon 0X Red. Learn to twiddle and block and hit with the T25 on the BH. You can catch even experienced players off guard when you block a fast loop back with the T25. Instead of getting a slow back spin return the ball rockets back at them with top spin even when blocking. You can chop close to the table but the Talon 0X doesn't have the grip to change the spin much. Learn to block off the bounce. It will take many months before the LPs will win you more points than you lose. Both the blades I suggested are stiff but are soft because of the cork and balsa wood they are made of. A TBS would not be a good LP paddle. Edited by tt4me - 07/01/2013 at 4:59pm

bluehorseshoe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 06/11/2013 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 62	Post Options Post Reply Quote bluehorseshoe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07/01/2013 at 10:07pm
	Thanks everyone!

Egghead Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premier Member Joined: 09/05/2009 Location: N.A. Status: Offline Points: 4230	Post Options Post Reply Quote Egghead Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07/01/2013 at 11:48pm
	755 ox is fine for blocking and hitting, and it will get the job done. Giant Dragon Talon ox is good (highly recommend) if you do not mind pay a little more. I am currently using Bomb Talent ox, and it is good as well. Do you check out the Sword Dual Property Monster King blade? Edited by Egghead - 07/01/2013 at 11:52pm
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1dennistt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Member Joined: 03/03/2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 533	Post Options Post Reply Quote 1dennistt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07/02/2013 at 10:01am
	The TBS will work better if you plan on playing an aggressive attack style of play with the long pips, something more like a Giant Dragon Kris II with Crop Circles (ox) might make for a more forgiving but still allaround setup, while still allowing you to be aggressive. Crop Circles might be an easier transition from an inverted backhand than 837. It has more grip, and the racket angles would be easier to adjust to. If instead you want a more blocking oriented game then Pogo (OX) is a good place to start. Pogo is ok at everything, but does nothing great. If you plan on chopping, then you'll need a different long pips. It all depends on where you want to start. Edited by 1dennistt - 07/02/2013 at 10:04am
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skip3119 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premier Member Joined: 02/24/2006 Location: somewhere Status: Offline Points: 8257	Post Options Post Reply Quote skip3119 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07/02/2013 at 11:27am
	Here are some low-priced LP rubbers that you can try: Double Fish 1615, Dawei 388D-1, and CK531a. I tried them all, but don't know which one is better. There are higher priced LP rubbers on the market.
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crackfst Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 02/23/2013 Location: Milky Way Status: Offline Points: 365	Post Options Post Reply Quote crackfst Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07/02/2013 at 11:48am
	Dawei 388D-1 really cheap and perfect for trying lp out. Edited by crackfst - 07/02/2013 at 11:51am
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