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i felt it was good to see wang liqin back in some form by getting into the finals by overcoming boll in a testing match. 
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are there any video of the carnival?
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Originally posted by TAKOYAK1 TAKOYAK1 wrote:

i felt it was good to see wang liqin back in some form by getting into the finals by overcoming boll in a testing match. 
I think that was more of a choke job by Timo Boll than Wang getting back into form. Timo was up 2-0 and then 10-7 in the third before losing that game in deuce and then he had about 3 match points in the 5th and still lost.
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The first two games that Timo won were also very close, so Wang Liqin is not in the great form, but he is still better than Timo Boll.
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that's right.  boll hasn't beaten wlq in 2 years and it doesn't look like he's gonna beat him anytime soon.

also, when you watch boll play against the chinese top-4, you get the sense that the fact that he's a lefthander is a liability.

when all else fails, they'll just rip a few shots out wide to his backhand and that is the end of the game.

his backhand has greatly improved since 2006, but it's still not good enough to match the power of their forehand loops.

also, wlq did something a little different this time around--an inside-out loop from the middle of table out wide to boll's backhand.

not only is that tough shot to hit, but it's really tough to return, and boll was clearly bothered by it.  he tried to block it back, but it would just spin off his racket.  that's how wlq won the match (look at the last point).
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!! thanks so much for the videos fixpoint!!
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A Vid of the Match Boll vs. Persson would be very nice. I heard, that it was a very beautiful match
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Thanks again FIX for the video. I am so greedy and want more.
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Originally posted by Mark 5 Mark 5 wrote:

A Vid of the Match Boll vs. Persson would be very nice. I heard, that it was a very beautiful match


i wouldn't mind seeing that one myself.  i was half-asleep when it was on, so i didn't actually see it, until the very end.

the match itself was lopsided, but the best part was the end.  that's one of the things i love about persson--even though he was clearly disappointed with the loss, he still was kind enough to give the audience a show and so, the last 3 or 4 points were incredible exhibition points!!
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Originally posted by Mark 5 Mark 5 wrote:

A Vid of the Match Boll vs. Persson would be very nice. I heard, that it was a very beautiful match
 
I like that too.
 
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2008 Tournament of Champions video
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Thanks Fixpoint!
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Thanks a lot fixpoint! Clap
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the last few points of that boll-persson match was fantastic!
chops, around the table, nets everything!
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last few points were so funny! Love the run around the table.
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appelgren videos from this tournament?
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appelgren played?!?!?!?! r u serious? lol
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lol :) i think augustk's talking about this tournament: http://www.live.ttlive.tv/em2009/
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Concerning Boll's  `mental weakness':

Players at this level are not mentally weak.
Remember 2003 when Schlager became world champion?
He had his back against the wall with Wang Liqin leading
10:6 in one set (4 match points), but could  still win the game.

Is Wang Liqin  mentally weak because of that?
I think not.  Similar phenomenon happened with Hao Shuai and Michael
Maze in 2005 - such things just occur all the time.

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Originally posted by konakona konakona wrote:

lol :) i think augustk's talking about this tournament: http://www.live.ttlive.tv/em2009/




looks like samsonov aint participating to have another crack at getting the title.
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Originally posted by remmpfremm remmpfremm wrote:

Concerning Boll's  `mental weakness':

Players at this level are not mentally weak.
Remember 2003 when Schlager became world champion?
He had his back against the wall with Wang Liqin leading
10:6 in one set (4 match points), but could  still win the game.

Is Wang Liqin  mentally weak because of that?
I think not.  Similar phenomenon happened with Hao Shuai and Michael
Maze in 2005 - such things just occur all the time.

 
coaches claimed wlq was mentaly weak not because 2003 failure, but take a look at ryu , he is really weak in the mental side
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hes just bad against lefties Big%20smile
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Originally posted by theman theman wrote:


looks like samsonov aint participating to have another crack at getting the title.


Oh, I've never followed this tournament, so I have no idea. Some interesting matches this year, Ma Long vs Waldner for example! :)
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Originally posted by konakona konakona wrote:

Originally posted by theman theman wrote:


looks like samsonov aint participating to have another crack at getting the title.


Oh, I've never followed this tournament, so I have no idea. Some interesting matches this year, Ma Long vs Waldner for example! :)


ive followed it since 06
interesting to see a CHINESE player!

some guys i havent seen play in the tourni before:
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ma long vs waldner
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waldner vs persson

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Originally posted by takaaki takaaki wrote:

that's right.  boll hasn't beaten wlq in 2 years and it doesn't look like he's gonna beat him anytime soon.

also, when you watch boll play against the chinese top-4, you get the sense that the fact that he's a lefthander is a liability.

when all else fails, they'll just rip a few shots out wide to his backhand and that is the end of the game.

his backhand has greatly improved since 2006, but it's still not good enough to match the power of their forehand loops.

also, wlq did something a little different this time around--an inside-out loop from the middle of table out wide to boll's backhand.

not only is that tough shot to hit, but it's really tough to return, and boll was clearly bothered by it.  he tried to block it back, but it would just spin off his racket.  that's how wlq won the match (look at the last point).
 
bolls backhand looks way stronger than his fh
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Persson vs. Boll...boy they had a lot of fun!
 
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Originally posted by sidofmillenium sidofmillenium wrote:

Persson vs. Boll...boy they had a lot of fun!
 


Yes, nice points in this match!
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Found some videos of the carnival.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EvYotqx798
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