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    Posted: 12/22/2008 at 4:31pm
Here's a story about table tennis in Seoul in 1988.
This is the first time table tennis made its appearance in the Olympics.
You can see legends such as: Tibor Klampar, Desmond Douglas, Jiang Jialiang, Chen Longcan, Ding Yi ...
French side: Philou and Patrick Birocheau
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One of the greatest tournaments ever. The men's singles final between Yoo Nam Kyu and Kim Ki Taek was breathtaking. 

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Originally posted by ice592 ice592 wrote:

Here's a story about table tennis in Seoul in 1988.
This is the first time table tennis made its appearance in the Olympics.
You can see legends such as: Tibor Klampar, Desmond Douglas, Jiang Jialiang, Chen Longcan, Ding Yi ...
French side: Philou and Patrick Birocheau
Merry Christmas !

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Thanks much! Terrific video.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote petermoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/22/2008 at 6:52pm
ICE592 this is some awesome table tennis!
This is some of the most fantastic action I have ever seen in one tournament.
Makes me wish back for those small ball, 21 point,  5 serve, glue bat , no red black days.
The variety of styles is amazing compared to nowadays and the rallies are awesome.
And Klampar! wow!
I dont mean to be greedy but ICE592 if you have more please let us have em!
(Did I mention I liked the video?)
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 Table tennis (= 21 points, small ball, 5 serves, speed glue, variety of styles) is much more interesting and spectacular sport compared to today's Basement Ping Pong ( =11 points, 2 serves, 40 mm. ball, no speed glue, banned long pips etc).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/22/2008 at 7:24pm
It is very interesting to see technique of at least three generations presented before you, and competing against each other. Klampar and Ding Yi certainly play like a 1970s players, almost all the rest of them play in 1980s style except for Persson and Koreans who certainly resemble style of 1990s more than the others. Even Waldner, I think, is still playing the 1980s game...

and did you see young Lupi there?
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Ice592, thank you very much! This is one of the best videos I've already seen. BTW, you are doing a great job uploading a lot of stuff. Cheers.
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This is a hot vid right here. Still downloading it though lol.
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thank you! ice592

very good video for me...

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I download it now and from what is written in the other posts I am sure that it is going to be a  great video... I have only seen the final from Olympics '88... So, thanks ice592!
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Originally posted by Thylacine Thylacine wrote:

One of the greatest tournaments ever. The men's singles final between Yoo Nam Kyu and Kim Ki Taek was breathtaking. 

 
i dont undertand why yoo nam kyu with that agility never won any single tittle after that, is one of thaT  players that prefer to play a sleek flashy style and dont like to score
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What ever happened to Kim Ki Taek lol.  Jiang Jialiang lost to Erik Lindh, but Taek beat waldner.
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omg! jean michel saive still had the baby shorts! god hes so young back then!
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omg! the infamous russian backhands were so good back then, no wonder smirnov, kuzmin and igor all kickass on that bh side!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote XxbOOmxX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/23/2008 at 12:00am
fabulous video. did not know the language but man the matches were great. history is still being made.
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Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

What ever happened to Kim Ki Taek lol. WTF Jiang Jialiang lost to Erik Lindh, but Taek beat waldner.


I also still don't understand how Jiang lost that quarterfinal against Lindh. Jiang was fast as a lightning bolt.
Waldner has never played well against short pips players. He learned how to play Liu Guoliang after several defeats, but he struggled during his whole career. JO lost to:
Jiang (87 Worlds), Kim Ki Taek (88 Olympics and 89 Worlds team), Guoliang (95 Worlds and later some protours), Johnny Huang (96 Olympics), Tasaki (97 Worlds team), etc.
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Wow I didn't know tasaki beat waldner. If ANYONE has that video PM ME.
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Originally posted by rpbnakata rpbnakata wrote:

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

What ever happened to Kim Ki Taek lol. WTF Jiang Jialiang lost to Erik Lindh, but Taek beat waldner.


I also still don't understand how Jiang lost that quarterfinal against Lindh. Jiang was fast as a lightning bolt.
Waldner has never played well against short pips players. He learned how to play Liu Guoliang after several defeats, but he struggled during his whole career. JO lost to:
Jiang (87 Worlds), Kim Ki Taek (88 Olympics and 89 Worlds team), Guoliang (95 Worlds and later some protours), Johnny Huang (96 Olympics), Tasaki (97 Worlds team), etc.
liu beat waldner in 1996 world cup and ahn shu beat waldner a lot of times in swedish league since 1993
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Simply amazing.  So many legendary players.  There were some very exciting and intense matches that I've ever seen.  ice592, thanks for sharing!
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Thnks so much for sharing its great to see the clash of the different styles
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Even though these were the first players I saw on video, I'd never had a comprehensive look at the 1988 Olympics ... until now. Please accept my thanks.

It was especially good to see the moody genius of Lezcek Kucharski of Poland.

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kucharski is like a safin, only he was the first! loved the shouts and outcries, he was once in the top 10 of the world
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Wow, so long ago. Hardly having someone remembering something that is 20 years ago. Clap
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the atmosphere around Waldner - Kim Ki Taek was amazing :)
Klampar's movements are weird,  he's so good though xD

Great video :)
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Originally posted by IceObsession IceObsession wrote:

Wow, so long ago. Hardly having someone remembering something that is 20 years ago.Clap


I remember it well! Yoo shouting 'Ossa!' after every point he won sticks in my mind. Lindh beating Jiang was the major talking-point; Jiang's-and China's five-year decline started from here. Jiang was very nervous,and Lindh,-who could be just as fast and tricky as Jiang,by the way-took advantage.Lindh took revenge for Waldner the year before.
I'd love to know what Gatien is saying about each of the competitors,but his French is too fast for me.
What was your source,Ice?? Have you got anything else like this from the same era? 1985 Worlds for instance (equally difficult to find videos of).
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ice592, this video just made me realise, that  TIBOR KLAMPAR WAS IN THE SEMI FINALS!!! he beat chen longcan?

holy smokes! and what? he was 35 or something? jesus! hungarians ftw!
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Originally posted by theman theman wrote:

ice592, this video just made me realise, that  TIBOR KLAMPAR WAS IN THE SEMI FINALS!!! he beat chen longcan?

holy smokes! and what? he was 35 or something? jesus! hungarians ftw!
 
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Originally posted by theman theman wrote:

omg! the infamous russian backhands were so good back then, no wonder smirnov, kuzmin and igor all kickass on that bh side!
 
theman, Cam got knocked out in the 2nd round of this tournament..LOLLOLLOL
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