Video: Debraj wielding Palio Thors :-) club match

I feel bad for your buddy. He looked like he was having a rough time. I know those games... I make a few stupid mistakes and then I get angry... then the angrier I become, the more stupid mistakes I make... which of course makes me even more angry.

This often culminates in teeth marks on my racket.  

Great game plan by you, your angled serves wide to his (lefties forehand) was a winner every time whenever you added a bit more topspin his missed 95% of the blocks

সার্ভ আপনি দারুন করেন এটা স্বীকার করতেই হবে।

well said saif

Boz:

I don't think JimT meant what he said as harshly as it may have sounded. And even if he did, let me say for the record that I, for one, always appreciate and respect your opinion. I'm sure there are many others that do as well.

I'm surprised to hear debraj say that his Thor's has lost tack. I have played with my sheet for over 20 hours now, and if mine has lost any tack it has to be a miniscule amount. I hope to make a vid sometime in the next couple weeks, and in it I will show you that the rubber will pick up a ball for about a second, which is as good as it was when I first opened the rubber. As another example, the protector sheet that I put on it is just a piece of plastic with no adhesive; yet it still sticks as firmly on the rubber as it did on day one, and it is consistent across it's surface.

In addition, I'd like to add an observation that is meant to be a bit of constructive criticism for debraj:

You've mentioned a few times about rubbers being inconsistent in their surface grip/tack. I noticed, however, that on your forehand stroke your wrist is quite loose. Too loose, in my opinion (but I could be wrong, and please take no offense. Just my opinion, and I'm just trying to be constructive! ) Anyway, such a loose wrist will necessarily result in inconsistent shots, whether inconsistent power, inconsistent control, or inconsistent spin. In my experience, the latter is the most affected.

So I wonder if your rubbers have really lost that much grip/tack in the past, or if it's just a perception based on that loose wrist.

I don't really know... and I could be wrong... and I certainly don't mean any offense by it. Take it or leave it. And feel free to critique my technique when I get around to posting my vid.

bozbrisvegas wrote: Deb I saw in the other post where I am too scared to ask any questions since I will get shouted down as a giraffe to a ladder or some dumb comment for why I can't give my opinion. So I will stay here longer as I have always had a respect for your thoughts on how rubbers work. You mentioned that the tack is wearing off quickly, is that right? What would you say is the tack?  Is it sprayed on just the top layer?  Is it kind of like ESN rubbers where your finger will destroy the sheen quickly?  And is the sponge at all porous like hexer or tenergy? thanks mate

anton...i responded to boz before reading your comment... hope that answers. also i played almost double the time you played with thors. and yes it is miniscule. 

debraj wrote: anton...i responded to boz before reading your comment... hope that answers. also i played almost double the time you played with thors. and yes it is miniscule.  hey c'mon ... i din't like that caveat of yours. i though you knew me by now.   my wrist has one major problem that of bending while looping. multiple times my coach and (others coach) have told me that this will create problem in my shoulder... and it did (rotator cuff). also this makes the ball placement very obvious for the opponent to read. it is on  my list to correct.  but no one told me about wrist being too loose, and i personally don't feel so...rather feel kinds too stiff in pressure stiuation. but possible... i am not denying you. just want to re-confirm... are you sure you are not thinking of the loose wrist because it is bent downwards?

Maybe "loose" isn't precisely the correct term. It seems "unstable". Perhaps this instability comes from too tight a grip (as in, not loose enough)... which makes my choice of words even poorer.

But yeah... your wrist looks a bit unstable. I know that when I have those issues, the most salient outcome is inconsistency in my shots. I guess I said "loose" because the instability makes it appear as though your wrist is kind of "flopping around" a bit. (Again, "flopping around" might not be the best description either, simply because it sounds too extreme. But hopefully it conveys my point well enough.)

I know it's good to be relaxed when hitting, but in my experience, it's only good to "relax" when one has the correct technique. For instance, when I first started learning "proper" technique, my old coach always used to remind me, "Fix your wrist, fix your wrist!" He meant for me to keep it stable and not let it, well... flop around. My suggestion for you would be to "fix your wrist" a bit more. I don't mean more tension. I mean to keep it fixed in one place and use your body more when swinging. In my experience, unless my hitting partner is all over the place, I shouldn't be adjusting/changing the angle of my paddle much between each shot. My wrist should be fixed in place and I should adjust to the varying heights of the incoming balls with my legs (by squatting more for low balls, etc.). Try not to make adjustments with your wrist as much by keeping it firm (but not tight).

I don't know... it's really difficult to explain technique online. I'd rather demonstrate it physically. And on top of that, I might not even be "correct" in my suggestion. Maybe something to think about, maybe not. But thank you for indulging me.

hi Debraj i don't want to be impolit but i've don't understand all in the video, you say you have 1650 points you and your friends.When i see the video i think you have not this level ( for me 9 )

debraj wrote: .. but my first game recorded with my new kodak zx3. hope to record some higher level game with better players soon. :)

jinbei wrote: hi Debraj i don't want to be impolit but i've don't understand all in the video, you say you have 1650 points you and your friends.When i see the video i think you have not this level ( for me 9 ) And your friend speak french ( i'm french) and your  location his USA. Sorry if i'm desagreable.

jinbei - it is nearly impossible to judge players rating level by looking at their video. So we have stopped (almost ) doing that here, on the forum.

30fps...to save space

Debraj has given a precise deviation for his rating - 1800 plus/minus 50.

Tinykin_2 wrote: I can't see the video. The msg reads " This video is private. Is there a way to work around?

Yes same here... did you change the privacy settings debraj?

should be okay now.... !! ... yeah i will make it private after you guys see it.