[video] please USATT rate me or any tips

I like the video editing. One thing that jumped out at me was your illegal service habit. You're letting the ball fall out of view behind your left hand.

Thanks rick

Looks like you 2 are very familiar with each other, so it's hard to see how good you really are.  There is not a lot of service variations, you seem to know what kind of ball is return to you, so you already set to play BH block or drive, before your opponent even hit the ball, this help you play better, but against unfamiliar, or tricky player, you maybe at their mercy.  BRS maybe correct in his rating estimate.

honestly murray...i wouldn't get too caught up with "ratings' as they tend to be quite regional.   we have "2000"  (alllegedly) rated american players coming to our clubs in vancouver all the time and they get their a$$ handed to them by 12 yr olds rated 600.     this is an extremely common theme.

i would just focus on working on your game.  

lastly, the only sensible american person i have ever heard talk about ratings is danny seemiller....apparently if he hears any of his students even bring up the subject of ratings they are banned from training with him.    that's a smart guy if you ask me.  fwiw...i jumped 900+ rating pts in the last yr alone by focusing primarily on serve and serve return.....a bit boring but the results were/are nothing short of spectacular....

regards
rick

suds79 wrote: Honestly I wouldn't get too caught up in rating. I think it can set preconceived notions in your head whether or not you're going to win or lose a match. Since you asked, honestly you seem to be on the level with several players at our club so I would say 1200-1300. Not trying to be mean. Simply what I see. I think 1400-1500 as stated earlier is a little on the generous side. Take Dave here from our club who is rated 1493 according to ratingscentral.com He's in the bright red and a cerebral all around type of player. Now onto the more important stuff. Takeaways from your game.  I'm a penholder so that might effect my outlook but I'd like to see a little more aggression or power play. The good news is you're 15 so that'll come in time but when I first saw it I thought "strokes look a little robotic." Then a second later I'd see a pretty forehand.  From your video: Nice forehand. - 2:12 (good stuff) Then at 2:22... ?  Why camp at the middle of the table passively blocking that ball in play? You're in position to rip that backhand or step around for a big forehand. You lost that point by the way when you were in prime position to finish it off. IMO you camp in the middle of the table simply blocking a pinch too much. Your consistency looks pretty good to me as far as keeping the ball in play. That's a valuable skill to have. Just my 2 cents.

further to my point...."Dave" would be approx 400-500 in Vancouver, Canada....as he is a complete beginner.

regards
Rick

tom wrote: ByeByeAbout wrote: thanks for the upload about 600-700 canadian (which is about 1700 american) regards rick Could anybody put down the equivalency between the two rating systems, eg 1000 Cdn = xxUS; 1300 Cdn = etc.  And why the big discrepancy?

Pondus wrote: tom wrote: ByeByeAbout wrote: thanks for the upload about 600-700 canadian (which is about 1700 american) regards rick Could anybody put down the equivalency between the two rating systems, eg 1000 Cdn = xxUS; 1300 Cdn = etc.  And why the big discrepancy? TTCAN / USATT  Ratings Conversion Formula To convert a USA rating to a Canadian one, use the following formulas which are used for the various ranges of American ratings. • For USA ratings from 0 to 899: equals 100 CDN • For USA ratings from 900 to 1799: Multiply US rating by 1.667 then subtract 950 = CDN • For USA ratings over 1800: Multiply US rating by 2.6667 then subtract 3650 = CDN

ByeByeAbout wrote: suds79 wrote: Honestly I wouldn't get too caught up in rating. I think it can set preconceived notions in your head whether or not you're going to win or lose a match. Since you asked, honestly you seem to be on the level with several players at our club so I would say 1200-1300. Not trying to be mean. Simply what I see. I think 1400-1500 as stated earlier is a little on the generous side. Take Dave here from our club who is rated 1493 according to ratingscentral.com He's in the bright red and a cerebral all around type of player. Now onto the more important stuff. Takeaways from your game.  I'm a penholder so that might effect my outlook but I'd like to see a little more aggression or power play. The good news is you're 15 so that'll come in time but when I first saw it I thought "strokes look a little robotic." Then a second later I'd see a pretty forehand.  From your video: Nice forehand. - 2:12 (good stuff) Then at 2:22... ?  Why camp at the middle of the table passively blocking that ball in play? You're in position to rip that backhand or step around for a big forehand. You lost that point by the way when you were in prime position to finish it off. IMO you camp in the middle of the table simply blocking a pinch too much. Your consistency looks pretty good to me as far as keeping the ball in play. That's a valuable skill to have. Just my 2 cents. further to my point...."Dave" would be approx 400-500 in Vancouver, Canada....as he is a complete beginner. regards Rick

suds79 wrote: ByeByeAbout wrote: you're not going to like the answer but it stems from Americans having an inflated sense of ego.  they will do anything to make themselves seem more than they really are.    they are a very "rewards" centered society....  saying you're rated "2000" just has a better ring to it than "800". i can pick 5 random juniors from my club rated 700-800 and have a round robin against american players rated 1800 and trust me, the smart money in on the junior canadians....to compare one system against the other is akin to comparing apples to oranges. regards rick Honestly I think there's a bit of generalizing going on here.  Do I doubt you've run into Americans who have an inflated sense of ego? I'm sure you have. What's that sample size? 10 people that you can think of? 20?... 1000? ;) The best player at our club has won our state games competition 9 out of the last 10 years, is in his 40s and trained as a child in Europe with professional academy. Long story short, he's a very good player by all accounts. I've never once heard him talk about his rating and he's one of the nicest guys around.  All I'm saying is be careful when painting with a broad brush categorizing a certain type of people.

america's economy plumeted as a result of people defaulting on their mortgage.   hey...here's a house  (reward..stroking ego) yet all the people with loans (10's of millions of people) didn't work hard enough to make the payments back....

that doesn't happen anywhere else on earth because the inflated sense of ego and entitlement exists only in america...

it's the same attitude that permeates this culture that gives (rewards..strokes ego) with a rating of 2000 when the rest of the world says 800.....same story ...

regards
rick

ByeByeAbout wrote: america's economy plumeted as a result of people defaulting on their mortgage.   hey...here's a house  (reward..stroking ego) yet all the people with loans (10's of millions of people) didn't work hard enough to make the payments back.... that doesn't happen anywhere else on earth because the inflated sense of ego and entitlement exists only in america... it's the same attitude that permeates this culture that gives (rewards..strokes ego) with a rating of 2000 when the rest of the world says 800.....same story ... regards rick

You are a lot more steady than players in the USATT 1300-1500 range, not nearly as reckless or wild. I'll go with that range for now, that should be just about right if you play a lot of tourneys vs a lot of that level of crowd. You only seem to bee too wild on BH on serve receive. You might improve greatly in the future if you can be in a real club with real coach with real league or tourney system. You got a lot of room to improve and a lot of the ingredients in you if you can get effective coaching.

tom wrote: Pondus wrote: tom wrote: ByeByeAbout wrote: thanks for the upload about 600-700 canadian (which is about 1700 american) regards rick Could anybody put down the equivalency between the two rating systems, eg 1000 Cdn = xxUS; 1300 Cdn = etc.  And why the big discrepancy? TTCAN / USATT  Ratings Conversion Formula To convert a USA rating to a Canadian one, use the following formulas which are used for the various ranges of American ratings. • For USA ratings from 0 to 899: equals 100 CDN • For USA ratings from 900 to 1799: Multiply US rating by 1.667 then subtract 950 = CDN • For USA ratings over 1800: Multiply US rating by 2.6667 then subtract 3650 = CDN great to have a conversion table, but is there a typo? 1700 US x 1.667-950= 1883 1800 US x 2.6667-3650 = 1150?

Edited by Pondus - 04/17/2014 at 3:41pm

Pondus wrote: tom wrote: Pondus wrote: tom wrote: ByeByeAbout wrote: thanks for the upload about 600-700 canadian (which is about 1700 american) regards rick Could anybody put down the equivalency between the two rating systems, eg 1000 Cdn = xxUS; 1300 Cdn = etc.  And why the big discrepancy? TTCAN / USATT  Ratings Conversion Formula To convert a USA rating to a Canadian one, use the following formulas which are used for the various ranges of American ratings. • For USA ratings from 0 to 899: equals 100 CDN • For USA ratings from 900 to 1799: Multiply US rating by 1.667 then subtract 950 = CDN • For USA ratings over 1800: Multiply US rating by 2.6667 then subtract 3650 = CDN great to have a conversion table, but is there a typo? 1700 US x 1.667-950= 1883 1800 US x 2.6667-3650 = 1150? Perhaps the bottom one should be: • For USA ratings over 1800: Multiply US rating by 2.6667 then subtract 2750 = CDN I don't know... I just saw this somewhere else. I've never actually used it. Sorry. ========= EDIT: I just put in some numbers and can tell that doesn't work either. Some these conversions must not really work (duh).

thank you regardless

Got any tips or exersises i can do to try fix robotic like forehand? (i probably need more elbow movement too).