What is your serve?

I do my serves with the Joo Se Hyuk 'no nonsense' motion: underspin, side-top, side.

my favorite player is Oh Sang Eun, so i use a lot of his serves.

i serve mostly short, but i use heavy backspin, side-top, pure side spin, and i have a brutal heavy no-spin serve. fast serves are usually no spin or sidespin. i use them very rarely, though. i also use a forehand inside out serve for backspin, side, top, and heavy no spin.

as for my toss, all of them are high toss-usually about 10-12 feet high. you get some serious corkscrew on the serves.

My current serves:

Short-mid toss Wang Hao reverse short
Short-mid toss Wang Hao (reverse-faint) into short Ma Lin pendulum backspin
Mid-high toss (pendulum-faint) into reverse (deceptive/hard to return, short down the line)
Mid-high toss Pure Long pendulum sidespin
Mid toss Heavy back/slight sidespin pendulum
Mid toss Heavy backspin reverse serve
Heavy Dead pendulum (any height)
Heavy Dead reverse (any height)

*all my "faint's" are interchangable Ex. (reverse-faint) pendulum and vice-versa

I also reverse short (faint into ma lin pendulum serve at times) from the forehand side..works out pretty well since it curves and is hard to push. Now I know why Wang Hao does it from time to time.

I can do a 270 degree wrist rotation top/sidespin pendulum but it got inaccurate..so did my fh topspin.

Oh yes there are 27 possible combinations of spin, 28 if u count no-spin. There are about 13-17 types that aren't physically possible to serve.

can u guys teach me a few very useful and spinny serves. my serves never catch my opponents in surprise

i like alink change my serves all the time, not necessarily to copy pros but because it suits me, i tend to use a similar movement as waldner, where my whol arm movement is hidden by my body so as to give the opponent no clue as to what serve i am doing, i dont necessarily try to copy him tho (although i have tried). as for spins, well, i use them all, topspin sid topspin, side, side-under, pure under, dead, as well as backhand serves and reverse pendulum i literallly use evry type of serve, but not necessarily in the same match, i use different serves vs different people, usually i use 4 or 5 serves against one player in a 5 game match

Wang liqin

TT_Freak wrote: I took my serves mostly from pro players. Liu Guoliang's sidespin serve, Ma Lin's underspin serve, and Wang Hao's inside out serve.

wow...which one your rpb is similiar to from that 3 pros

i tried to learn ryu's serve, however i cant produce much spin...

pingpongpaddy wrote: cole_ely wrote: But I have one cool serve where I serve the ball off the back of my hand.  It makes a completely dead ball that barely clears the net.  Plus there's the surprise factor where they have to wonder for a split second if it was legal.  It is.  And it's very easy to do if you're a shakehander.  Just pop the ball off the flat of the back of your hand from a backhand serve. I thought the service law said the serve starts with the ball in the PALM of your hand :-)

Ya I Think it does.

alink91 wrote: I have one last thing to say. Many of you may not belive me but I have 22 serves that i use in tournaments and 72 serves I dont use. If you dont belive me I can show Hinshaw a different day or I can show patmandidly at 41st joe.

could u record your serves and post it on youtube? thanks

it's fun to try out many different serves but is better to stick to some during a match.  for me, it doesn't really help my game if i serve many different serves. the best way to serve is to serve with intention.  I am not talking about the intention of the spin, but the intent to expect how your opponent is going to return your ball regardless of what serve you produced.  serves are useless if you do not pay attention to your opponent's intent, so people should not waste too much time making their serves perfect.