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What makes more advanced/exotic serves better? |
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Cyrilix 
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 Topic: What makes more advanced/exotic serves better?Posted: 11/24/2008 at 12:31am |
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What makes more advanced/exotic serves like the pendulum/reverse pendulum/tomahawk serve more effective than the basic forehand and backhand backspin/sidespin/topspin serves, aside from making the other player go "lol wut" (see Dimitrij Ovtcharov), of course.
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varghesep
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Posted: 11/24/2008 at 12:40am |
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They are variety serves his opponents are not used to. The opponent thinks first to return the serve while the server can take advantage of the third ball attack.
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Posted: 11/24/2008 at 12:53am |
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becuase they look cool, wikipedia cool and u get "schlager" lol
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Posted: 11/24/2008 at 1:00am |
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But at higher levels, the opponents are all used to it, right? |
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Posted: 11/24/2008 at 1:00am |
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It is harder for the receiver to judge the spin of the serve and he can make more easily an error...Another thing is that every player makes different motion when makes a pendulum serve.The receiver may not have seen this motion before and he may make an error.With the basic serves, the motions that the server can do, are more predictable...
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Cyrilix
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Posted: 11/24/2008 at 1:11am |
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I had a suspicion it would be that, but you've confirmed it... because really, where on the table can't you hit by doing the basic serve? The rest has to be deception. |
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Posted: 11/24/2008 at 5:07am |
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The pendulum serve is more versatile because the action can look the same from serve to serve, but where and how you strike the ball with the blade can vary the spin and speed, which makes it easier to misread than a basic serve; as johnny89atc points out.
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Posted: 11/25/2008 at 3:19am |
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being able to get more decptive serves like the niu/matsudaira /ding ning tomahawk serve |
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Posted: 11/25/2008 at 8:17am |
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I dunno, but for me, a serve can look exotic when performed by Ai Fukuhara wearing only Victoria Secret's newest collection.
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Posted: 11/25/2008 at 8:50am |
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For third ball attaks, the players spin it for their advantage. Eventhough the opponents know the serves, they can't do much. Sometimes, the opponents gets trapped also in the style. It is more mental.
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Posted: 11/25/2008 at 5:00pm |
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I love Ding Ning's tomahawk serve.
Saw a video of her against guo yue on youtube recently. |
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Wow Ding Ning's tomahawks are wild!
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CRAZY!!!!!
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Posted: 11/25/2008 at 9:31pm |
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those serves permit variety and let you mask the spin by doing the same motion with a slightly different contact, the spin is therefore a lot let obvious so the opponent will be reluctant to attack
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Posted: 11/25/2008 at 9:53pm |
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well...for the tomahawk you can change your wrist motion while haveing the same arm swing and change the spin.
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I have to disagree with you there. I see many players, on the pro tour as well, get their tomahawk serves get murdered by 2nd attack loops. Case and Point, Kenta Matsudaira vs. Chen Qi 2007 ATTC. |
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Posted: 11/26/2008 at 12:41am |
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Well I think that is more a good read by an experienced player and a little bit of luck. Hopefully if your a pro you should be able to attack weak serves when you get them. Even Ma Lin has had serves come zipping back past him. I don't know if it's just because of a weak serve, poor placement or just an excellent read by the opponent, but it happens from time to time no matter who is serving. |
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Ding Ning's serves don't work. Have you seen how Guo Yue just kills them?
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=sRLODlo4r0w Anyways it works at lower levels... |
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