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sidofmillenium
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Posted: 10/16/2009 at 10:25am |
The looser you hold the blade, the more relaxed the arm, which makes the rest of the body relaxed if you use it as well...and if you try to tighten at impact to reduce recoil effect..then the arm will slow down....for experiment: hit a high lob and see which is fastest...so in my opinion..a lose grip followed by a good followthrough so the blade hits the ball at its hightest speed...and the rest is slowing down.(also, if the blade keeps moving as it strikes the ball, instead of stopping as the ball leaves, the ball goes at twice the speed since the ball is travelling attached to the sponge at the speed of the arm movement + the power imparted on it through elasticity!
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I think you should send this to the USATT elite traning program. Just kidding. But yeah, in martial arts you want to keep the arm as loose as possible until the point of impact. Same thing.
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sidofmillenium
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if you read carefully, it will explain why since your am wont have a risk of breaking at impact, its to keep it relaxed throughout. |
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JKC
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I think you are grossly over simplifying things at the bottom of you post Sid. You are assuming all of the energy is transfered to linear momentum, non to angular momentum, you are not allowing for any other energy loss, coefficient of restitution etc.
I think you are asking which grip is best for power, but as we know this game is not all about power. The answer is which ever grip allows you to get the ball on the table the most consistently and this will vary for different players, depending on their equipment, level of practice and 100 other factors including what type of shot a player is playing.
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sidofmillenium
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Ok, but lets focus at 1 thing at a time...would you agree that for power, a loose grip is best? |
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JKC
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No idea, I don't go all out for power.
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tdragon
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Loose grip is different from relaxing the wrist, body and arm. I have several coaches (including someone from China). All of them told me to hold my blade tight so the surface blade would not turn when contact.
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sidofmillenium
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yet Hao Shuai doesn't....so there is room for variety...when I loop...I keep my racket closed....it helps.
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jpingchow123
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same here. |
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JKC
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I hope that the pros aren't reading this thread otherwise there could be bats flying everywhere at the next tournament.
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jpingchow123
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Speaking of flying paddles, I have a friend who loosened his grip for some unknown reason on a really fast attack, it sailed across the room like a frisbee. So in short, table tennis rackets are quite aerodynamic. |
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sidofmillenium
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I have thrown and broken quite a few rackets...now I know the exact balance...I hold it loose enough to keep my arm relaxed....and hold it in such a grip that blade is locked within my finger...so it doesn't fly away.
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sidofmillenium
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if I hold it too loose, the racket will just drop...so I hold it as loose as possible.
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sidofmillenium
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Alright, now lets move on. For control, is tightest grip best or loosest?
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sidofmillenium
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loose goes with the flow, tight goes against it. A loose but active grip may offer better control for advance players...but for beginner...definately tight grip should provide more precision.
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sidofmillenium
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I never said they should...I am talking strictly interms of having control...PAY ATTENTION!!!
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JKC
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Can you define what you mean by control Sid?
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sidofmillenium
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ability to safely return a ball.
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sidofmillenium
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I AM SICK OF THIS...THAT MESSAGE WAS NOT POSTED BY ME, BUT ADMINS ARE EDITING MY POST WITHOUT LETTING OTHERS KNOW THEY POSTED IT, IT IS EXTREMELY UNETHICAL. I AM ON THE VERGE OF A BREAKDOWN, DONT PUSH ME ANY FURTHER, OR ELSE I WONT GO DOWN ALONE. |
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GBtabletennis
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SMLN, many people don't take you serious, you try to help us, but this is not a good way. You are giving us bad advices, because you are an experimented player.
You are talking about your own approach, what for you work best, work for others maybe not! |
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sidofmillenium
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My main agenda is to gain knowledge, which is why you have to tell me if it doesn't work the same for you. And the reason behind it so we can gain a mutual understanding towards it. |
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