Who has an easier time with choppers?

I was wondering, who has an easier time playin choppers? Shakehanders or penholders. I ask because I watched Kan Yo vs. Joo Se Hyuk and Kan Yo had no problem handling his chops with the exception of a few misses. What do you guysthink?

I don't even train penhold, but I can surely do a powerful short dead ball attack

agreed on the third strong 3rd ball for the pen holder.

I dont think its a fair indication of how Joo was playing though, apparently
the venue did not hold spin very well at all.

Matthew Syed was commenting on it during the Joo / Liqin match on Euro Sport.

The other reason pen holders are generally better against
choppers is becuase there footwork is better than Shakehanders.

Sounds stupid but u need better footwork against choppers due to
the constant spin variation.

penholders since there grip naturally comes under the ball, pretty much everything thing naturally is stronger with penholders but the bh is naturally weak so they must costantly train on there bh be it j pen or c pen

I say Shakehanders. From my experience, penholders have the most trouble playing against my backspin. It's easier to loop with shakehand and with power. I find that penholders have trouble with looping high and don't generate as much power as shakehanders. They're more of the driving type. I've also seen a couple of games of JOO and Ma Lin. Ma Lin had to put some extra effort into his loops and still lost. Also, since penholders are mostly attackers, defenders benefit from their shots with LPs. Shakehanders are more versatile and can change the game up, making it more difficult for choppers.

I find it interesting that Joo always gives Ma Lin a heck of alot of trouble.

Also Wang Liqin killed Joo at Guangzhou so thats + 1 for shake handers.

Joo is pretty cool, but Oh is my fav Korean. I miss him.

I play penhold and I personally think shake-handers have an advantage against chops if they are taking the return on the left or the right of the body, penholders have an advantage if they are taking the return in front, or a bit to the backhand side.

I believe that it has little to do with the grip they use and more with the style of the game they play.Most of Pen-holders are drivers,power-attackers where 3 the 5 ball attack is common.I would say that shake-handers who are versatile and flexible in there game can play well against the variety of spins coming form the defender. Mix of midium hard and soft spins (well placed) followed by the short drop shots can move the deffender back and forth and be very effective.

liondefence wrote: "Oh"? I've never heard of him. Was he also a defender?

Talkin bout Oh Sang Eun.

I miss him so much.