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Originally posted by BRS BRS wrote:

It seems like there is a really simple solution that could work for everyone.   

I understand for some of the best posters that it isn't fun providing interesting content on the forum unless you can argue and talk shit to each other.  But that is really tedious and boring for those of us who only want the TT content. 

Why can't you insult each other and argue in PMs?  Take it outside, in effect?

If you understand the psychology of a performative poster, you will see that doesn't really make sense.  Audience matters.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by BRS BRS wrote:

It seems like there is a really simple solution that could work for everyone.   

I understand for some of the best posters that it isn't fun providing interesting content on the forum unless you can argue and talk shit to each other.  But that is really tedious and boring for those of us who only want the TT content. 

Why can't you insult each other and argue in PMs?  Take it outside, in effect?

If you understand the psychology of a performative poster, you will see that doesn't really make sense.  Audience matters.

LOL, I wanted them to have to say it, but you said it for them. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NextLevel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/12/2022 at 10:16am
Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

It's amusing how the mods keep telling members to move on, yet decide to keep this thread going the wrong way. One last response.

Again, I have no problem with name-calling if it pushes the discussion forward, which I've been subjected to for years. Nextlevel's case, however, is different. Unlike I, jackwong23, tom, et al., who are peers, you're not. You're in a position of power. At your discretion, you could wield the ban hammer to stop other members. Where were the other mods to rein you in? Is it right to assume the mods won't act unless someone hits that report button? If true, I'll no longer refrain from hitting that button in the future. Be warned. How is that any different from passive-aggression? How does that improve the sense of community if that's how we operate when divided?

Baal has admitted on multiple occasions that he spends more time on his other hobby(and likes to quote "harden the *bleep* up"). Is he even fit to serve as mod, for lack of motivation? Should he not keep himself to "For Sale" as he's not even listed under "General"? Should I just quote "harden the *bleep* up"?

I fixed the ailing forum once without any remuneration. Can't wait to see those who hit that report button to contribute to MyTT in a more concrete way.

Hi zeio,

In America, what you consider "power", we consider a form of "service".  I can't remember having the discretion (which is different from the ability) to ban or punish anyone but maybe you have examples of when I have done stuff.  I have the ability to ban people, but I always pretty much have to justify my decisions to anyone if asked.  It is like saying that I have the discretion to stab people which makes no sense to me.  Maybe you see it as "power", and maybe you want that power, tell stiltt that you want the "power", that you are convinced that at least two of the current moderators are not getting the job done.

You can lodge a formal complaint with stiltt/alexli if you feel that what I did was egregious enough.  I think most moderators have similar judgment but I will speak for myself.  I am disinclined to get between two posters interacting with each other unless I feel that they have not developed a rapport with each other.  Moreover, in the absence of a formal report, people can interpret my decisions as being grounded in favoritism, so I tend to avoid taking action in those circumstances where I have interacted with the posters.  In any case, everything is a judgment call, never been black or white to me unless you get sufficient mass behind a certain view.  That is partly why reporting is helpful.

Ultimately, these things come down to ownership vision, and we as moderators just execute on it as best we can. If you want to change the vision, sell the admins (alexli, stiltt) on your vision.  they may be more receptive than you think.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/12/2022 at 3:37pm
The whole point of a forum is to argue.  Just try to argue about TT, any bit of minutiae you want, and try to make at least a small effort to not derail the threads by making it excessively personal or going hundreds of miles off topic.  Because the other members really don't enjoy scrolling through endless streams of some of this angst.

The only person I've banned in a long time is the many carnations of Sjan. 

And I'm not wanting to ban any of you guys.  Just try to understand that a ping pong forum is not life or death. 



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Overall, I think most members in the forum are polite and considerate. A couple might have a little bigger "ego" than the rest, but still not out of the line.  Don't see that the mod needs to do anything here.
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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

Can't we ask those questions to 100 times more people and select the bad answers to make that movie? 

The same kind of movie can be done in any country and therefore all the countries would be on the verge of collapse? I guess "on the verge" is relative. On the geological scale, a country has collapsed very shortly after it came to be.

Bump. Imagine the following players making the podium and the announcer pronounces "Lily Zhang from Canada!" or "Alexis/Felix Lebrun from Monaco!" Badminton Danmark and BWF are getting grilled as of this moment because of that.

https://twitter.com/j_soekop/status/1584185265060397056
https://indonesiaexpat.id/news/denmark-apologises-for-mentioning-indonesian-badminton-winners-from-malaysia/
Denmark Open 2022: Indonesia = Malaysia
Indonesia: You want WWIII?

There is more.
https://english.news.cn/20221022/b1c22ad1514a4d07b3c031882236eab9/c.html

Edited by zeio - 10/25/2022 at 6:09am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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https://world-tt.com/blog/news/archives/37708
Watanabe looks back on WTTC Finals 2022:
Hayata started feeling pain in her playing arm in the match against Uzbekistan;
He expected France(because of Yuan Jia Nan) instead of Slovakia in the QF;
Kihara was designated as the 3rd singles player, with Nagasaki as backup;
Hayata wanted to play in the final and was in the lineup the day before, but he didn't want to aggravate the injury and benched her;
They were stimulated by Harimoto and wanted to keep it going but CNT was impeccable;
With Hayata out, Ito told him "leave it to me. Let's do it." Despite being visibly disturbed by the unforced errors in the group, she got used to the ball and went into the final with confidence;
Even though Ito didn't play bad against WMY, she still couldn't win, therefore something must change, or something must be added;
In response to Konno[interviewer] citing Mizutani's comment that service and receive are the keys, that Ito uses reverse spin only when serving and should add gyro spin and pendulum spin, and should anticipate long serve when receiving, Watanabe says SYS also loses playing that way;
He expects CM to play Paris 2024 because she is treated as the trump card here;
On world class women's table tennis, Europe is so lonely. It feels to have always been in a slump. Unlike WTT, WTTC is an authoritative tournament. Other than China and Japan, perhaps the rest of the world is decreasing in level;
On Kihara and Nagasaki experiencing WTTC, Watanabe says it reaffirms that WTTC is a tournament that carries a lot of weight, unlike WTT individual events. He hopes the two of them can make good use of the invaluable experience gained from playing against China in the final next time. He thinks more Miwa Harimoto will appear in Japan in the foreseeable future, but it is important to experience the world in order to keep the players uninterrupted. He stresses that "defeat China" must be realized.

Edited by zeio - 11/02/2022 at 2:24pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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