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jerms 
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 Posted: 12/31/2009 at 4:12pm |
 TTPokemonLover wrote:
I m also interested, does anyone have the video when Zhang cheated against Liu Shiwen?
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yes pls.
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Rich215
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AJay
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 5:26pm |
dmras wrote:
Yes, PongPong2010, when was this match? I have many Zhang s games, may be I didn t pay attention to this moment. I d like to watch it more thoroughly.
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This happened in Oct during the Chinese national games.
In the final, Zhang YN beat Guo Yue 4-1 with relative ease, but in the semi-final match, Liu almost pulled off an upset.
At the time it was 3 games to 2 with Liu leading. Liu trailed 7-9 but fought back to tie at 9-9 when Liu served. Zhang s return was apparent outside and then controversy errupted. Zhang seemed to suggest it was an edge ball, the referee then awarded the point to Zhang. Liu disagreed. Zhang s coach got involved too. Eventually the competition judge maintained the decision. Zhang went on to win the game and the next thus beating Liu 4-3.
Zhang later remarked that she thought the serve might be a net ball, she hesitated a bit and thought her return also might have caught the net and the edge.
Her coach Zhou afterward said something like "I m sorry" to Liu s coach, but it wasn t clear if that meant the call was wrong.
It was obviously a critical point in the match. Liu being less experienced might have been more affected by it than necessary. Who knows how it would have turned out otherwise.
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PongPong2010
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 6:06pm |
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TTPokemonLover
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 7:32pm |
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I want to see the actual VIDEO. Anyone know where you can find it?
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PongPong2010
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 8:05pm |
TTPokemonLover wrote:
I want to see the actual VIDEO. Anyone know where you can find it? |
I ll try to find one, but after the protest and uproar from large amount of Ping Pong fans, the Chinese government had again used it s machine of media-censorship to delete/block all online clips of that match.
Remember, Zhang herself is a top communist party member called "Zheng Xie Wei Yuan" which is equivalent to our congresswoman. (I don t know how, for someone not even well-cultivated/educated, to become congressman. Don t ask me about China.) Her husband has a broad connection with authority since he manages Chinese government s assets through openly known kickback investments...
Anyway, if she dares to return to Pong without a formal apology, I am fixing to round up all the anti-cheating fellas to BOO her in Moscow and London.
Watch me!
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dmras
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 8:28pm |
We see the road from love to hatred is very short. PongPong, why have you loved her so much, didn t you know that she s commie and chinese (seems to be awful mixture for you)? I ll check my archive, may be I have this game. May be you are too hard on her. During sport s games players often make mistakes.  Commies are coming!!!
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Jonan
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 9:08pm |
PongPong2010 wrote:
Read this!
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omg, get over yourself. No one gives a crap if you think she cheated, I ve seen blatant cheating in all degrees in every tournament I ve been to. Someone who thinks that the ball hit the edge could be honestly mistaken. Regardless if she was wrong in thinking that she got an edge shot in one game, she s still head and shoulders the best women player in the world. To say that you ll round up people all over the world to boo her at competitions if she comes out of semi-retirement is just rude and childish. Also don t attack her marriage or husband, that s just rude and wrong. You can t assume to know how two people feel about each other and should stay out of that in your hate rants. People don t go around booing Maze or Suss with all the crap they do, or boo players who hide their serves still or boo people they think still tune their rubbers, why should we boo someone who thought they got an edge point and may not have? Get over yourself... Also
PongPong2010 wrote:
dmras wrote:
Zhang Yining is table tennis genius. It s a great loss if she quit playing.
As for her morality PongPong2010 we really don t know why she married this guy, but not you.
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Career Ethic usually means nothing to you people, commie rat!
You have NO idea how much I know about her... |
Keep your political bigotry the hell out of this forum. Don t go around calling people from one country rats because you think you know by their nationality what they believe about politics. I m from America but I m a socialist, you can t assume anything.
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ganggy
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 9:11pm |
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shes already won like everything there is too win. she isnt retiring till 2012. |
till 2013
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PongPong2010
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 9:25pm |
Jonan wrote:
Keep your political bigotry the hell out of this forum. Don t go around calling people from one country rats because you think you know by their nationality what they believe about politics. I m from America but I m a socialist, you can t assume anything.
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Kid, if your last posting was deleted by so called "censorship", then, only then, you ll know why I have a million of reasons to call them "commie Rats".
No one CARES if you grew up in a California communion, nor do 99% of Americans solute your Socialism. I was born in China, go to school in liberal San Francisco, Berkeley and now still hold an office in Berkeley...
But I am from America and loves freedom!
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ganggy
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 9:29pm |
PongPong2010 wrote:
Jonan wrote:
Keep your political bigotry the hell out of this forum. Don t go around calling people from one country rats because you think you know by their nationality what they believe about politics. I m from America but I m a socialist, you can t assume anything.
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Kid, if your last posting was deleted by so called "censorship", then, only then, you ll know why I have a million of reasons to call them "commie Rats".
No one CARES if you grew up in a California communion, nor do 99% of Americans solute your Socialism. I was born in China, go to school in liberal San Francisco, Berkeley and now still hold an office in Berkeley...
But I am from America and loves freedom! |
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Jonan
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 9:36pm |
PongPong2010 wrote:
Jonan wrote:
Keep your political bigotry the hell out of this forum. Don t go around calling people from one country rats because you think you know by their nationality what they believe about politics. I m from America but I m a socialist, you can t assume anything.
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Kid, if your last posting was deleted by so called "censorship", then, only then, you ll know why I have a million of reasons to call them "commie Rats".
No one CARES if you grew up in a California communion, nor do 99% of Americans solute your Socialism. I was born in China, go to school in liberal San Francisco, Berkeley and now still hold an office in Berkeley...
But I am from America and loves freedom! |
There you go again, assuming things and slinging bigotry and ignorance. You don t know what I believe or think as a Socialist, you don t even know what a Socialist is. I m a Democratic Socialist, but you don t care do you? You don t know where I grew up, though I m not sure by your grammar who you are trying to talk about with the last paragraph exactly...you also don t know how old I am, so don t go around trying to disrespect me by calling me a "kid". You have no right to talk down to me, or other people, which is all you re doing here. Just because you have the "freedom" to spew ignorance, arrogance, and bigotry, doesn t mean its right to or that you should.
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wturber
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 9:40pm |
TTPokemonLover wrote:
Yeah I know... Zhang is a wonderful player!
I m also interested, does anyone have the video when Zhang cheated against Liu Shiwen?
P.S. I heard Liu Shiwen is using Innerforce ZLF with Tenergy 64 on both sides. Is this true? Please confirm. :D |
Since when are such matches called by the players? That s what the umpires are there to do.
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ganggy
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 9:41pm |
Jonan wrote:
PongPong2010 wrote:
Jonan wrote:
Keep your political bigotry the hell out of this forum. Don t go around calling people from one country rats because you think you know by their nationality what they believe about politics. I m from America but I m a socialist, you can t assume anything.
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Kid, if your last posting was deleted by so called "censorship", then, only then, you ll know why I have a million of reasons to call them "commie Rats".
No one CARES if you grew up in a California communion, nor do 99% of Americans solute your Socialism. I was born in China, go to school in liberal San Francisco, Berkeley and now still hold an office in Berkeley...
But I am from America and loves freedom! |
There you go again, assuming things and slinging bigotry and ignorance. You don t know what I believe or think as a Socialist, you don t even know what a Socialist is. I m a Democratic Socialist, but you don t care do you? You don t know where I grew up, though I m not sure by your grammar who you are trying to talk about with the last paragraph exactly...you also don t know how old I am, so don t go around trying to disrespect me by calling me a "kid". You have no right to talk down to me, or other people, which is all you re doing here. Just because you have the "freedom" to spew ignorance, arrogance, and bigotry, doesn t mean its right to or that you should.
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obama is a socialist not democratic socialist
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Jonan
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 9:43pm |
ganggy wrote:
obama is a socialist not democratic socialist
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THAT is the most retarded thing said yet on this thread. You truly are stupid if you believe that. Go look up socialist in a dictionary and look at his public policy. Workers rights and socialist organization are currently infuriated at his policies and changes in stances on his economic issues, as they are most assuredly, NOT socialist. Socialist-" a theory or system of social
organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of
the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in
the community as a whole." It s not taxing people and giving some of it to social help programs or supporting a larger government or whatever crap the idiots on Fox say.
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dmras
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 10:15pm |
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PongPong2010
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 10:28pm |
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You know I was once a marin county hot-tubber. And I am everything but a bigot! So keep that word to you dear president Obama, kid.
Yet, I hate some "communist rats" who kept deleting my postings in all Chinese Pong forums, because I questioned the evil of State-Sponsored sports school system in China. Big deal...
If I @#$%king walk the haight-ashbury every hippy there would give me a 5; if I hang out in Berkeley downtown on Sunday I d chat hours with Tibetan students, so Jonan kid (not only I know you re a kid, but also I ASSUME you re NOT a straight-A kid like we were) don t talk like you re the China-friendly "who-know-all". So far what you ve got, is the American birth right and a native English, but that ain t enough to take you far...;)
OK, back to the Topic on Zhang Yining s sportsmanship. She s gone! She ain t come back without a formal apology to fans! Or you ll see seas of banner reading "cheater", "material girl", "liar" during Moscow games!
We ll see!
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PongPong2010
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 10:35pm |
Let s say, China is a big man with a lot of money, but his ass stinks...
Who s going to kiss it then?
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dmras
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 10:41pm |
PongPong, aren t you afraid coming to Moscow. There can be so many commie rats? Well, speaking seriously, I give up arguing with you. This forum is about PingPong and Zhang s genius doesn t need to be defended.
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TT over Study
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 10:56pm |
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all you losers please go to a political forum haha
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Jonan
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 11:02pm |
PongPong2010 wrote:
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You know I was once a marin county hot-tubber. And I am everything but a bigot! So keep that word to you dear president Obama, kid.
Yet, I hate some "communist rats" who kept deleting my postings in all Chinese Pong forums, because I questioned the evil of State-Sponsored sports school system in China. Big deal...
If I @#$%king walk the haight-ashbury every hippy there would give me a 5; if I hang out in Berkeley downtown on Sunday I d chat hours with Tibetan students, so Jonan kid (not only I know you re a kid, but also I ASSUME you re NOT a straight-A kid like we were) don t talk like you re the China-friendly "who-know-all". So far what you ve got, is the American birth right and a native English, but that ain t enough to take you far...;)
OK, back to the Topic on Zhang Yining s sportsmanship. She s gone! She ain t come back without a formal apology to fans! Or you ll see seas of banner reading "cheater", "material girl", "liar" during Moscow games!
We ll see! |
1. I m not a kid, I ve been married for 3 years and I ve already graduated college. 2. I never said I was "China-friendly". No real democrat or socialist would be. 3. China is a fascist country, not communist. Fascism- "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti)
that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands
for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition" Communism-"a theory advocating elimination of private property, a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed" Tell me, which of those sounds like "communist" China? Are all things publicly owned and handed out for everyone s good? Or is everything controlled by a few people for the good of a few with severe infringement on social rights and freedoms? So get your terminology right, call them "Fascist rats" if you re going to generalize and profile people based upon their nationality or race if you insist on being a bigot against people. I develop my opinions and beliefs based upon my personal convictions and books written by educated and informed individuals, not blogs or BS news reports that don t bother citing or proving any of their slanted opinions they throw out as facts.
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PongPong2010
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 11:05pm |
dmras wrote:
PongPong, aren t you afraid coming to Moscow. There can be so many commie rats?
Well, speaking seriously, I give up arguing with you. This forum is about PingPong and Zhang s genius doesn t need to be defended.
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"evil kenevil" like me doesn t worry much, plus Putin is my friend so, Moscow trip in May is a done deal unless my boss told me I d lose my clearance if going to Russia... 
I am tired of arguing too, and my opinion on Zhang doesn t need to be defended either!
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JimT
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Posted: 12/31/2009 at 11:07pm |
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Closing... go blow off your steam in some place, guys...
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