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    Posted: 09/22/2005 at 11:47am
I went to this club and they were selling 729 Higher, II, III and Faster, II, III. Anyone knows anything about them??
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higher and faster II, III are recommended for bh. II III are faster than I. Generally, Higher is grippier than faster. That's all I know
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according to 729 webpage, higher is for BH and faster is for FH, and is yet the best series of 729. has anybody played with these sheets?
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but II and III are for bh.
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Which sponges do they use (transcend, ESN, etc) for both Higher and Faster?

If I recall correctly, I've read on this forum, that Higher and Faster have fairly thin and elsastic topsheets and are close in feel and playing characteristics to some "mainstream" european/japanese rubbers.  Does anyone have any experience and comments?

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They produced Faster on ESN a while ago. The sponge is a masterpiece. Ball can easily embedded into the sponge (not because of its hardness, rather with its construction). Cons: quite heavy.

Transcend is a chinese sponge developed by 729 in-house. It's elastic. Hardness is around 40ish. Great glue effect.

And yes. Higher & Faster both have thin topsheets. Similar to H2, H3, G666 in terms of structure. They all have thin topsheets.

It doesn't have any chacteristics of euro/jap rubbers. 1st it's tacky, that's what generally a chinese rubber is like. 2nd for it's weight, I wouldn't say it's as light as Japanese made ones.

If you like close to table attack, chinese rubber is the way to go. I've seen people that do not play close to table attack hate Chinese rubbers.

Higher is tackier than faster. Faster is not neccesarily faster than higher. Don't get fooled by their names. I have both. Higher is quite good for looping. However, it's too elastic for smashing.

That's all I know about higher and faster. Cole_ely & Londonletdown can give comments to you.
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higher has good control but its not very tacky
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you got the bad version of higher the tackspeed2000 on transcend version not the green sponge tension version correct alink?
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Originally posted by ttman ttman wrote:

you got the bad version of higher the tackspeed2000 on transcend version not the green sponge tension version correct alink?

my sponge is tan but I think its tensioned, you're probably right

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yeah thats normal transcend that is untensioned just has a euro LIKE feel

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I didn't even know they were putting 2000 on transcend.
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well techincally there not they are using 2000 on trancsend and in china restamping it as higher
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questions about higher and faster with transced sponge:

1. whats the throw angle of the 2 rubbers?

2. which is faster- 729-3 with pink jap sponge or faster with transcend?

3. is the geospin tacky spinnier than the 2 rubbers above?

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transcend -3 is medium.  the pink sponge is much lower.  Geo tacky is spinnier but slower than eihter of the above.  Both due to softer sponge and tackier topsheets.  And much lighter too so maybe because of faster handspeed.
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Now I think of it. Faster on ESN feels like Bryce in some ways. What you think?
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cole i just got my hands on a new geospin tacky and i find it very slow , slower than both jap and regular taiphoon and its too soft for the backhand, i tried looping it on the forehand and its good but on the backhand it lacks power.. i  think im shifting to faster with transcend on bh... the spin of geopspin is good though but not as spinny as dhs h3 or h3
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I've tried Faster on ESN, Faster on Transcend and Higher on Transcend (all I, doesn't have II and III around).

Faster on ESN is very compariable to HPA, but spinnier.

Faster on Transcend is more bouncy and it is even spinnier and faster then Faster on ESN, but when speed glue too much, my pushes pops up a lot, make me lose some controls

Higher on Transcend is more spinnier then Faster on Transcend, higher throw angle, and a ted slower, and I can't make it stop poping, so it is really for BH use.

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Got some reviews on Faster III from a friend, if any one is still interested, also a review on Focus II:

Review of Friendship 729 Faster III rubber
Review of Friendship 729 FOCUS II rubber

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i have played both higher and faster on the transencd sponge and i dont like them they are very heavy and i dont think the play that well i think the cream is a much better top sheet then either of those higher and faster are both very tacky and the higher is a little better with it being a little softer top sheet but dont waste your money on them if you want to try them i will sell whoever both a sheet of higher and faster for 10 bucks

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Well the Higher III has a Japanese sponge and the Faster III has a german sponge, so they will play a little different.

I find both the higher and faster series of rubbers only mildly tacky...not to different from cream really...

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I have used both in a Petr Korbel blade.  Heavy and hard rubbers, both are very spinny but Higher is a little more because the topsheet is a little softer.  Faster is very fast and very very hard, I think it's the hardest rubber I've ever used, great for topspin play but it's a little difficult to control when making normal drives, blocks and serves, but it's all about custom, the Higher version is a little softer with more spin and a little more control but still very similar as Faster. Both are low throw angle rubbers.  That's all I can say.
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I didn't think these rubbers were hard. Weight perhaps a little on the heavy side. Compared to the rubbers I use often Bryce, Ekrips, and Hammond X the throw angles were higher. I glued Faster 2.2/Red to a taco-like state and it was extremely fast, although I could not control it.
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