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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JimT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/30/2009 at 6:46pm
By the way, I also would advise editing the title of the thread - especially since you cannot really be sure, it's a good idea not to slander someone before you are absolutely 100% confident about the accusation.

Not to mention, there is a standard feedback thread for LoopingAddict, isn't there? Post there, or start it if doesn't not exist.

If it doesn't exist you can simply rename this one to Feedback for LoopingAddict...
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yes. I think this is just a misunderstanding thing liek I said in my very first response. Loopingaddict for sure is a good person. Because if not, he would not bother to defend himself to speak it out.
 
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azinoth you need to be REALLY careful before accusing somebody.
building a reputation takes a lot of time. destroying it, just a single thread in a forum.
recently I ordered a blade from a site in phillipines. it took 7weeks to arrive here. they really took their time to answer my mails and didn't give me much information. did I start a thread complaining and talking trash? no, I was just patient.
once you know you've been fooled, yes, make it as public as you can.
before, just give the other the benefit of the doubt.
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Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

oh yeah, I wish I didn't buy from you(LachlanTan)
last time.
 
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I'm pretty sure Registered Air Mail is very possible. Registered Air Mail includes a worldwide tracking that shows up on practically the entire globe. And shipping from China to the Europe/USA takes usually 10-14 business days.

I've been shipping from China, and I've had experience shipping from (Taiwan, China, HongKong, USA) and they've all had the registered mail option. Average price for shipping something via Registered Air Mail is around $6-7 for a package under 100g, and then $2 per additional 100g.

I blade with proper packaging should weigh at most 500g, which would cost less than $15 to ship. OC villager sent his blade via priority mail which should cost is the ball park for around $20-30.

I'm pretty sure Australia has registered air mail. Can anyone confirm this?

Btw, China is not cheap in terms of shipping price.
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I'm not trying to blame anyone, just trying to help by providing information that may be helpful.
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Not sure about registered air mail but I make my living via the mail and I've sent 1000's of parcels with Australia post and only ever lost _one_. As far as postal services go it's right up there with the best in the world

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Originally posted by sebas-aguirre sebas-aguirre wrote:

azinoth you need to be REALLY careful before accusing somebody.
building a reputation takes a lot of time. destroying it, just a single thread in a forum.
recently I ordered a blade from a site in phillipines. it took 7weeks to arrive here. they really took their time to answer my mails and didn't give me much information. did I start a thread complaining and talking trash? no, I was just patient.
once you know you've been fooled, yes, make it as public as you can.
before, just give the other the benefit of the doubt.


Took me 7 weeks to get my Stiga OC CR from them too :), but I DID get it (in the end)

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Originally posted by nicefrog nicefrog wrote:



Took me 7 weeks to get my Stiga OC CR from them too :), but I DID get it (in the end)


Shocked   WAY TOO MUCH information!!!  I hope the removal surgery was successful.    LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LoopingAddict Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/31/2009 at 12:37am
I even offered him that if My HH didnt arrive I would ship back his ZLC if it ever arrived here
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Hopefully both parties here has tracking for their packages. tracking information is essential for any successful transaction.
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I guess I'm lucky.I've bought from China,Phillipines,Taiwan,Canada,Hawaii and my packages arrived in max.10 days and alot cheaper than Europe.Why should I pay 15 euros on shipment from Germany when the shipment from Asia is 12$ or less? I ,personally cannot afford to buy from Europe.I think it's a matter of trust here.Buy from people(sites) you trust.Wink

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I bought a blade from someone on this forum, got a blade in 3 days. Shipped from UK to US (NYC).  Go figure.
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Originally posted by cagaragesales cagaragesales wrote:

I'm pretty sure Registered Air Mail is very possible. Registered Air Mail includes a worldwide tracking that shows up on practically the entire globe. And shipping from China to the Europe/USA takes usually 10-14 business days.

I've been shipping from China, and I've had experience shipping from (Taiwan, China, HongKong, USA) and they've all had the registered mail option. Average price for shipping something via Registered Air Mail is around $6-7 for a package under 100g, and then $2 per additional 100g.

I blade with proper packaging should weigh at most 500g, which would cost less than $15 to ship. OC villager sent his blade via priority mail which should cost is the ball park for around $20-30.

I'm pretty sure Australia has registered air mail. Can anyone confirm this?

Btw, China is not cheap in terms of shipping price.


Albert, yes, Australia has registered mail and they can provide you tracking while package goes from Australia to Romania. However, as soon as it enters Romania, all info you will get is "it's in Romania"... no more details once it's inside. And it could take a long time for it to make its way across a small European country or even one big city as my experience showed me.
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Ah I see,
Well, I'm just hoping that this matter is resolved ASAP. Thanks JimT!
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In short, I bought a blade from Lachlantan. He saids he shipped the blade. It never arrived and he wanted to walk away from the deal.
He basically just said sorry and I need to accept nothing for my payment.
Paypal did not help. In the end he gave back half my payment minus Paypal's share. But Lachlantan's actions still irratates me.
 
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[\start philosophical rant]

Sometimes its not the transaction gone bad.  Its how its handled (as in customer service).  Bad communication can result in a bad reputation even if the transaction is good.  Good communication and concern from the seller can turn an otherwise bad transaction into a positive experience.  Just depends on a few choice words, a reasonable solution and timely communication.  Sometimes "consensus" is not agreement, its just something everyone can live with.

I think too often people do not put themselves in the others position to see how they are perceived. 

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I understand your madness for losing money for not receiving a product from the seller, but I can't blame the seller.
 
Here is the deal we should all look at. When selling something, seller should always say shipping included or not. This is the basic. And the basic should also be priority mail. Why? Quicker service.  The addtional service seller as myself always asks buyer if they want to add insurance? This is up the the buyer. Seller has receipt to show as a proof that they did ship the product but if postal service messed up, you cant blame the seller. If you spend a little more money for insurance, insurance will cover the loss. Hope it helps.
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We agreed on the price shipped for the blade, but he could not provide me with the proof that he sent the item.
 
Australia to USA
 
 
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Originally posted by azinoth azinoth wrote:

Now when i am tryng to talk with him he always don't respond he ignore me , I think now i am blocked because on my friend MSN list he appear online and on mine he is offline ...


Could LoopingAddict or azinoth explain this further?
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Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

We agreed on the price shipped for the blade, but he could not provide me with the proof that he sent the item.
 
Australia to USA
 
 
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Originally posted by cagaragesales cagaragesales wrote:

Originally posted by azinoth azinoth wrote:

Now when i am tryng to talk with him he always don't respond he ignore me , I think now i am blocked because on my friend MSN list he appear online and on mine he is offline ...


Could LoopingAddict or azinoth explain this further?


If im online im online but maybe busy with other work. Our time zones are different morning there could be late afternoon/night here.
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Originally posted by LoopingAddict LoopingAddict wrote:

Originally posted by cagaragesales cagaragesales wrote:

Originally posted by azinoth azinoth wrote:

Now when i am tryng to talk with him he always don't respond he ignore me , I think now i am blocked because on my friend MSN list he appear online and on mine he is offline ...


Could LoopingAddict or azinoth explain this further?


If im online im online but maybe busy with other work. Our time zones are different morning there could be late afternoon/night here.


I understand your situation. I'm currently in China and there's a 16 hour time difference between China and California, USA. But even if I am awake at a different time, I still answer my emails/MSN messages (knowing that they'll receive the offline messages when they come online).

It seems that azinoth is trying to say that a friend, who seems to be a 3rd party here, is able to see you online and at the same time, he cannot see you online. If you ghosted online, no one would see you online. But if you blocked someone, only that person will not see you online.
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Originally posted by cagaragesales cagaragesales wrote:

Originally posted by LoopingAddict LoopingAddict wrote:

Originally posted by cagaragesales cagaragesales wrote:

Originally posted by azinoth azinoth wrote:

Now when i am tryng to talk with him he always don't respond he ignore me , I think now i am blocked because on my friend MSN list he appear online and on mine he is offline ...


Could LoopingAddict or azinoth explain this further?


If im online im online but maybe busy with other work. Our time zones are different morning there could be late afternoon/night here.


I understand your situation. I'm currently in China and there's a 16 hour time difference between China and California, USA. But even if I am awake at a different time, I still answer my emails/MSN messages (knowing that they'll receive the offline messages when they come online).

It seems that azinoth is trying to say that a friend, who seems to be a 3rd party here, is able to see you online and at the same time, he cannot see you online. If you ghosted online, no one would see you online. But if you blocked someone, only that person will not see you online.
Why do you care so much about the problem between this transaction? Do you have too much time on your hands? Maybe go threaten another competitor in order to maximise your profit instead
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Lachlantan, unlike you, I actually care about this community. I too have been cheated by people like you. But I've also seen what miscommunication can to to two innocent people. Funny how it seems that all you really care about is "competition" and "profit". You try to sell a product that you don't know about. You sell products that don't exist. And now you've tried to get away from a transaction with a loyal mytt like jt99sf. Anything else you want to add to your rap sheet?

Also I wonder why you've changed your answer to jt99sf to "Do I know you?" from the original message "I asked if you want tracking and insurance for the parcel which would cost a more and you did not want to pay up for it. If you remember the price you bought the blade for it is impossible to discount any further."

Originally posted by jt99sf

We agreed on the price shipped for the blade, but he could not provide me with the proof that he sent the item.
 
Australia to USA
 
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Since when did I cheat you? Evidence?
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"I too have been cheated by people like you" I along with several other forum members have already figured you out before you had the chance to take us for a ride. Proof is already posted on the forum and the mods are taking care of it.
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Your face is a picture of your attitude LOL

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Guys, why not take your fight offline.  Or better yet, meet in a neutral location and wail away at each other with 44mm balls.

But IMO you should take this to the moderators and let them lock this thread.
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Tsk..Tsk.. Tsk...
 
need my 2 cents?
 
 
To all you Trolls out there.. you know who you are!!
 
Don't you Trolls fear the judgement day? 
 
Here we are trying to promote better Pingpong skills/blade trades/fun stuff...and more.  And yet you Trolls are ripping people off for your own pathetic gains. Trust me, that kind of money won't last very long.  Yes, you know exactly what I mean.  YOU WILL GET YOURS some day.  No worries.
 
To all you mytt cool people:
Please, before doing a trade, always ask for Reference!! It's a must. 
 
 
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