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a blade like kreanga carbon? |
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yorsh82
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Posted: 04/02/2009 at 2:02am |
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hi!, hey...is there a blade that plays like a kreanga carbon?.....the feel...the speed...i think is an awesome blade...but it's banned =(
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searching for a good blade/rubber....comming back after 4 years of no TT at all..... :(
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Stavros
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Ishlion.
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Vivant
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Agree with Stavros.
As a proud KC user, I'd say the closest is the Ishlion. But I must say Photino and TB-ALC are very very good, if not better, substitutes. |
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wizz
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I reckon the Amultart feels very similar due to the hinoki outer plies.
The amultart is faster but hey, these days rubbers are slower without speed glue so its all good. |
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jonyer1980
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why?
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tdragon
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the_theologian
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wood grain has to be seen... isn't that the issue?
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theman
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dont forget the look,
from dawei |
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jonyer1980
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But this doesn�t mean to be banned, just only it�s difficult to attach rubber because of the slippery paint.
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Rosewood V FL
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tdragon
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onurzaim
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Check this photo out.
http://picasaweb.google.com.tr/samionurzaim/Masatenisi#5299620956347469538 Some one did it for me. He said he used a lot of paint remover solvent to do it. He said he spent about 3 hours to remove it completly. |
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bozbrisvegas
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here is the pic from that link,
what I am interested in since I
sold mine to my friend because it w
was too heavy is:
how heavy is it without the paint?
And what kind of wood do you
think it is?
Ishlion is a the closest light
version without a doubt.
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Wang94
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And i heard that the blade must be 50% clear wood (or smth like that) and the tamca is probably not.
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onurzaim
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After the paint removed the blade weight reduction was very noticable. The power of the blade was not gone. Even the control increased and close to table play was like all+ blade.
I think the layer is Hinoki. It is not a a one piece of hinoki. Small wood grains are compressed the form this layer. After the layer was completly removed you could destroy that layer rubbing your finger. It is a very soft layer that you could scratch it with your nail. I even made two dips by hitting the blade softly to a table edge when there was 2.1mm tenergies on it. Here are some photos http://picasaweb.google.com.tr/samionurzaim/Masatenisi#5323721646144364978 http://picasaweb.google.com.tr/samionurzaim/Masatenisi#5323721679803758802 I played with ishlion also. I think Kreanga is more flexible and has got more gears(paint removed version). Kreanga can handle thin and hard sponges whereas the Ishlion is for thick and soft rubbers if you need variatons in your shots. Btw Ishlion has got and empty handle like stiga blades. Just hit it with your finger to notice it. btw. thanks to bozbrisvegas for making the pics published in an easier way. |
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bozbrisvegas
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onurzaim it looks like its one ply hinoki, hinoki has lots of lines in it that maybe looklike as you have said "all stuck together". I highly doubt they are little lines all stuck together.
Could you weigh your blade now?
I always knew that without the paint the blade would feel harder and a touch less powerful. similar to removing a veneer of arylate?
I really want to show those pics to my friend that has 2 of those blades and doesnt believe me when I say they are illegal. Noone cares so far as I know. They just see it says butterfly and it must be legal! I wouldnt bother removing the layer unless you are highly ranked.
I would remove it if you find your rubbers keep falling off all the time
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onurzaim
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Whenever I get chance to weigh it I will but I dont know anyone who can help me about this close to me. I will search tough.
The reason I want it removed was a test if the feeling would increase. Yes it did increase and it was still a powerfull blade after I removed. Only touch shots like flip, flick, serve returns, drop shots and on short serves the blades power decreased. But it was more controlable. I didnt have problem controling the blade with its paint but some of my friends said it became a more playable blade after the layer was gone. I had the non sticking rubber problems when I tried to use a boosted or a heavily glued rubber. Some sandpaper work did work for a while but I still had to use some presurring device or big books to stick a rubber sometimes. This blade is discontinued now but if a person want to buy a new one they can find it elsewhere. But it will depleet one day anyhow. It will be slow because of its price I guess. I can not say anything about my level right now because I do not have a benchmark in my country to test my skill of tabletennis. Maybe some video may help |
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bozbrisvegas
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this is another thing I have noticed when using heavy vocs:
they dampen the actual wood, softening not only the rubber but the wood too, so you might find it doesnt feel so quick for the touch shots. This would have happened when you removed that paint with solvents, if you didnt use solvents then sorry for my idea.
they being sold for about $300 australian dollars when they came out.
I bought mine in Thailand for $100! last year, the only reason I bought it was because I knew it was the most expensive blade in the world and would resell it as I have.
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tdragon
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There was a great modified KC. You could have more info there.
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onurzaim
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I finally found the oportunity to weigh my Kreanga Carbon.
The blade which is shown above the page weighs 87.24gr. |
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yorsh82
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i want to buy a KC, is there an online shop in thailand where i can get it?? regards |
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searching for a good blade/rubber....comming back after 4 years of no TT at all..... :(
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bozbrisvegas
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they do have butterflythailand but even when I was in Thailand I almost didnt go out to the store because the prices advertised online werent anything special. You have to go in store where it was about 40% off
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