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good rubber to loop heavy downspin |
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pingpongkf
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Posted: 11/14/2006 at 11:20pm |
Recently I'm loving my darker speed 50. Everything is just right. except when it comes to looping heavy downspin. i use Almana on it. i used to have almana on a Galaxy S3 and it was so easy to lift heavy downspin. So i think the combination is too fast. But since i really wanna keep the speed 50, what are other great rubbers for easy downspin looping?
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alfie
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probably want to try a slower softer rubber,almana sound is for sure softer or something like coppa tagora which is yet slower and softer than almana sound,get max sponge on a softer rubber and you should have plenty of dwell time
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shij421
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. sorry dp
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shij421
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I'm gonna have to say Bty Cermet. Best opening loop rubber I've played with, but then again, isn't this 90% technique ? Adjust your looping posture with the rubber you're using. But anyway, Cermet took the least effort for me.
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YATTP
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Looping backspin is 100% muscles & technique. Equipment doesn't matter *at all*. I can loop backspin pretty much the same way with any rubber I have ever tried - even with short pips. If your hand is not fast enough yet you'll find it much easier to loop backspin with thick speed glued soft rubbers like Cerment, Sriver FX, Samba etc., but as soon as you are confronted with *heavy* backspin this material won't help you at all anymore because even the strongest catapult won't get you the needed amount of hand speed to loop heavy chop.
My advice: Keep your current setup and focus on playing against defensive players for several months in order to improve your technique and, most importantly, your handspeed. Don't try to play fast topspin, stick with slow spinny control loops. Try to maximinze the spin and minimize the speed *and* learn to vary the hight of the arc (-> timing of the hip turn). You should always slow loop with maximum power to get as much spin as you can. This will get you faster handspeed on the long run and it will give you the necessary timing to make dangerous spin loops in real games. |
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agni
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I agree with YATTP . I have seen that against a good backspin , it is easier to make a slow but spinny top spin than a fast low topspin . I think the reason is the fast wrist movement combined with heavy back spin makes it risky . You should observe the level of backspin , and then based on it decide which type you should use. The blade should start moving from your knee area , should be more open and should go till your head height . Also you need all your muscle power when you do it.
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D4VOW
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Your problem is'nt with your equipment, its your technique. Take the advice from the previous 2 posters. Changing equipment to fix a flaw in technique is never a good suggestion and will hamper your development.
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D4VOW
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Your problem is'nt with your equipment, its your technique. Take the advice from the previous 2 posters. Changing equipment to fix a flaw in technique is never a good suggestion and will hamper your development.
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hubie60
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In a match last night, I missed two attempts to lift heavy backspin. My equipment is fine - Bryce FX on the forehand - but my technique for poor. Work hard on technique - seek the right equipment for your game - and the results will be gratifying.
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leeyong
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I know this is a equipment forum, but how would you guys flip a short backspin ball that does not go outside of the table? open blade, brushing stroke, upward movement?
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pimpmyracket
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For the sake of development, it may be better to stick to ALL+ kind of equipment. Once you can execute all your power strokes consistently, and with all your power, then it's a good time to upgrade to OFF/OFF+ equipment. Then you know your technique will be stronger than if you jumped up to carbon right from the start.
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deeptish
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can you explain how it is related? also how to vary the height and length of the ball? |
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YATTP
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The swing goes upwards in a curve. Your weight is on your right leg and your knee is bent very much. When you start the swing you press your right leg off the ground (=jump impuls) and do the swing with full speed. After contact with the ball (in the falling phase) the speed of your swing will lift the ball upwards. Now you have to give a forward impuls with your hips i.e. you violently turn your hip forward. This makes your right leg which is off the ground now due to the little jump move forward in the air. The faster the hip turn i.e. the more violent the impuls the faster the topspin will be. The earlier you start the hip turn the lower your topspin will be. In order to learn these differences in speed and curve hight you should start with a violent but very short hip impuls and vary the timing of this impuls (early or late) to find out how it influences the curve hight of your topspin. |
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Thaidog
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Scramble 21 Ultima EX is a great rubber for looping underspin.
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