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Topic: A Bit More Of Me
Posted By: JKC
Subject: A Bit More Of Me
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 7:45pm
For those of you who are already getting excited about my British League clash with Wiggy next month, here is a few points from my knock with Iqbal tonight. It is a compilation of some points which made it over 5 shots and some other bits which you may find 'interesting'.
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=umWwnd9m8Tw - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=umWwnd9m8Tw


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGShBxEKnDk%20rel=" rel="nofollow - I once could serve



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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 7:50pm
that 2nd last point was monster reaction!!! amazing man!
your bh power and counter loop never ceases to amaze me, u r so confident on both wings, i reckon u can give wiggy a run for his money.

i say 4-1 to you man!


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Posted By: Piri
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 8:00pm
I really like the way you play JKC!

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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 8:04pm
Originally posted by theman theman wrote:

i reckon u can give wiggy a run for his money.
 
I'll have my camera there anyway. Whatever happens, it should be a looping extravaganza.


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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 8:19pm
you are a good player jkc, but you could work on your fitness quite a bit.

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Posted By: pokerpete
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 8:57pm
what rubber is your buddy using now on his forhand...it sounds real nice!

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Posted By: Heimdallalso
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 9:36pm
liXiao, i have no clue, whatsoever, as to the level of your play however, you completely & utterly lack any diplomacy.

Juan King C, Not only do you have a good sense of humour you have considerable hand eye skills.
Play well!


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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by Heimdallalso Heimdallalso wrote:

liXiao, i have no clue, whatsoever, as to the level of your play however, you completely & utterly lack any diplomacy.Juan King C, Not only do you have a good sense of humour you have considerable hand eye skills.Play well!


WHy lol its pretty clear that he has to work on his fitness.

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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by Heimdallalso Heimdallalso wrote:

liXiao, i have no clue, whatsoever, as to the level of your play however, you completely & utterly lack any diplomacy.Juan King C, Not only do you have a good sense of humour you have considerable hand eye skills.Play well!


WHy lol its pretty clear that he has to work on his fitness.


how? from those points i could see juan dictating play and be in control of his shots...heck those curling sidespins and bh winners were sick
i dont think i saw him ever get out of breath, or struggling a lot to reach for the ball.


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i lost my racquet

Schlager u beast

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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 9:39pm

better watch out JKC, Lixiao is going after your fitness again!

LiXiao is rated i think 976 or something USATT.


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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 9:43pm
Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

better watch out JKC, Lixiao is going after your fitness again!

LiXiao is rated i think 976 or something USATT.


is that a guess? how sure are you?
you wanna lock that in?LOL
(A) Final answer?


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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 9:46pm
Originally posted by theman theman wrote:


Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by Heimdallalso Heimdallalso wrote:

liXiao, i have no clue, whatsoever, as to the level of your play however, you completely & utterly lack any diplomacy.Juan King C, Not only do you have a good sense of humour you have considerable hand eye skills.Play well!


WHy lol its pretty clear that he has to work on his fitness.
how? from those points i could see juan dictating play and be in control of his shots...heck those curling sidespins and bh winners were sicki dont think i saw him ever get out of breath, or struggling a lot to reach for the ball.


Then what video are u watching, and yes I am 976 usatt, I have played, ONE MATCH. I would be alot higher if there was at least one tourney near me.

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Posted By: t3h anarchist
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 9:52pm
jkc your stroke is kind of messed up you dont turn your body enough you use way to much of your arm motion

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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 9:56pm
i watched this video, as well as the previous video he posted up.
i dont see the obvious, care to explain at what points he looked unfit?


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i lost my racquet

Schlager u beast

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Posted By: Heimdallalso
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 9:59pm
Dear theman, I respectfully submit that arguing on the internet is like winning a race at the Special Olympics: you may win but you're still...well you get what I'm saying!Wink

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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 10:01pm
Originally posted by Heimdallalso Heimdallalso wrote:

Dear theman, I respectfully submit that arguing on the internet is like winning a race at the Special Olympics: you may win but you're still...well you get what I'm saying!Wink



haha i do get what ur saying, alright mate, ill leave it there Wink


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i lost my racquet

Schlager u beast

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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 10:01pm
Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by theman theman wrote:


Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by Heimdallalso Heimdallalso wrote:

liXiao, i have no clue, whatsoever, as to the level of your play however, you completely & utterly lack any diplomacy.Juan King C, Not only do you have a good sense of humour you have considerable hand eye skills.Play well!


WHy lol its pretty clear that he has to work on his fitness.
how? from those points i could see juan dictating play and be in control of his shots...heck those curling sidespins and bh winners were sicki dont think i saw him ever get out of breath, or struggling a lot to reach for the ball.


Then what video are u watching, and yes I am 976 usatt, I have played, ONE MATCH. I would be alot higher if there was at least one tourney near me.
 
I dunno man.. to get a rating like that you have to lose to someone with a pretty low rating or you gotta just not have a very high skill level. I'm not trying to rag on you.. but if you can't pick up on why JKC is a good player then that is a sign of you not understanding/ knowing anything about some concepts of Table Tennis.
 
I wasn't saying very great things about him at first when i watched him, but that was a while ago and I've since learned what it takes to be able to play the game like he does.. because I've gotten better and more knowlegeable as a player. But even still.. just because he's not running around like some japanese player doesn't mean he's not a good player.


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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 10:02pm
Originally posted by theman theman wrote:

i watched this video, as well as the previous video he posted up.i dont see the obvious, care to explain at what points he looked unfit?


He clearly looked slow, and he was moving at a slow rate. And I also have to agree that you do use your arm too much in your strokes.

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Posted By: ibupro
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 10:28pm
there are other ways of being an effective player than moving as fast as a mouse dodging a cat, staying skinny as twig and having text book strokes.

Many of us would be better served thinking about how to disrupt our opponent's game than how we look on video.


Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 10:31pm
Its not a matter of how we look on camera, but it is important to be in top physical condition when playing in any sport if you intend to win.

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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 10:40pm
I know a guy at my club who barely moves from the center of the table, yet he just beat a 2100 player a couple weeks ago due to his placement and anticipitory skill.
 
I'd rather be unfit and beat good players with a smart game than move around a lot looking like a fool wearing every table tennis brand apparel I can and having a basement skill level. But hey, I can kinda move my feet right? Most likely because I don't know what to do with the ball though... Disapprove 


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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 10:45pm
But when your physical fitness is low the limitations begin to set in, depending on how overweight you are.

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Posted By: lildudejds
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 10:50pm
Lixiao give it a rest. Video NEVER makes people look as good as they really are. Sure, his stroke isn't "textbook". It is all arm, but it works for him and I'm gonna go ahead and say he would DESTROY you. You are like 900....quit talking smack unless you hit 1800 or so.....


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Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 10:51pm
He doesn't need to increase his fitness because he can play some decent topspin even though he doesn't really use much of his body.It only limits the level of players he can beat.
Movement doesn't play much of a issue if its not your game. There are several 2000+ players who are very obese or do not move much.


Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 11:03pm
The thing is we watch too much pro videos and cannot respect that people have their own style of play, not everyone has to play the way the pros do..
Looking at his video, JKC will surely destroy me in any match, any given day..


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Posted By: Rich215
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 11:08pm
Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

  I'd rather be unfit and beat good players with a smart game than move around a lot looking like a fool wearing every table tennis brand apparel I can and having a basement skill level.


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Originally posted by lildudejds lildudejds wrote:

Lixiao give it a rest. Video NEVER makes people look as good as they really are. Sure, his stroke isn't "textbook". It is all arm, but it works for him and I'm gonna go ahead and say he would DESTROY you. You are like 900....quit talking smack unless you hit 1800 or so.....


But lil....he knows every Japanese player unknown to those outside Japan!   And also knows how to swear really cool in abbreviated tense.    LOL

Wait till he hits 40+ and finds out how good beer tastes.   haaaaa 


JKC  RULZ!     I very much enjoy your vids my friend, keep posting up!  Thumbs%20Up


liXiao.......please post up some video of you hitting!!!  


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Posted By: JRSDallas
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 11:17pm
liXiao,
 
To be perfectly frank liXiao, yes it is great to be in shape and I myself have spent considerable time in the last 4 months getting into shape and yes it is helping my game. 
 
On the other hand JKC clearly has great timing, comfort, anticipation and power with the ball.  Furthermore, those aspect of the game are something that being in shape plays almost no part in, and, they are elusive key that separates the "got game" from the "aint got game" folks. 
 
Even if you personally have only 3% body fat and run a marathon every day, your 976 rating makes it pretty clear that you can't yet even comprehend the physical coordination experience he has with the ball and the game.   I know this because I am much further along than you and I only a 2000+ player who is too often reacting to the ball instead of expressing my will against my opponent.
 
I hit a very strong ball but I work hard and move hard.   Rarely do I achieve such long rallies with that much pace on the ball with that little effort and such obvious comfort while doing it.
 
JKC is not having to work hard but his motion is fluid and his power is high and this means his mechanics are efficient.  Efficient mechanics are what you see from players who have developed greater skills than your run of the mill tournament player and this efficiency typically makes them appear relaxed (because they are).  As skills rise, the motions begin to almost look languid because the players become less and less rushed as they get properly positioned earlier and earlier.   
 
Respectfully, your eyes and mind should learn to see deeper because your comments suggest that they are only seeing the surface.  Boiling your entire analysis down to JKC's weight, when he clearly has great skills (and the record shows you don't) is sort of like a kid who talks about sex but has never had it versus a man who has sex with his good looking wife every night.  The man does not need to talk about it -- he can just do it.


Posted By: Rich215
Date Posted: 01/25/2009 at 11:22pm
JRS...very well said. You are much more sincere than I...... props to you!   

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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 12:27am
walk the walk AND talk the talk

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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 1:52am
Thanks for the support everyone. Hug
 
LiXiao, you had your say on the last vid, and no one listened then either. Thumbs%20Down


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Posted By: pablogilberto
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 2:12am
976???!!! that's when I started taking up TT more than 20 years ago!! LOL


Posted By: MildSeven
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 2:13am
I agree with LiXiao.

Stop mobbing against him for stating the obvious.


Posted By: DTopSpirit
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 2:49am
If it's obvious, why the need to say it at all? Why not show some class and shut up about it? You honestly think that JKC is going to suddenly look down and go "Whoa! I never noticed! Thanks for pointing that out!"

It's obvious to me that some people need to learn that just because they think something is true, that doesn't mean that they should blurt it out to all and sundry. Think before you type.

The difference here is that while JKC probably knows he's a bit heavy, certain others don't seem to have a clue that they are being offensive.

Sheesh.


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Posted By: Recanter
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 3:02am
Excuse the ignorance, but is JKC the guy in the black clothes?

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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 3:06am
Originally posted by Recanter Recanter wrote:

Excuse the ignorance, but is JKC the guy in the black clothes?


hes the guy in the lighter shirt


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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 3:07am
I am the unfit looking one in the green, blue and white striped top which looks light green on the vid.

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Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 3:14am
Ease up on li xiao guys, he's talks a lot of smack, but it livens up the forum. And a 1000 usatt rating for a young guy is impressive. With a usatt 1000 rating you could beat around 80+% of the 200 million US population, and I'm sure li xiao can win lots of people on this forum.


Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 3:17am
He does rather stick his head up to be shot at though. He should think a little more before he types. Next time I post a vid, I will put his first post up for him because it is so predictable.

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Posted By: MildSeven
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 5:33am
You guys are feeding and perpetuating a mob mentality that is just so dispicable. BS like this was what kept me away from the board for 5 years the last time around.

LiXiao never made any untrue or unfair comments. There were glaring strengths and blatant weaknesses revealed in that video that those of us not up to JKC playing level can still recognize.

DTopSpirit needs to shut the f**k up about that 'class' bullsh*t. There is nothing classy about a yes-man or someone who just rains praises on others. I avoid dealing with those kinds of people at work and even moreso privately. Friends tell each other the truth, and for me at least, I have considered the people of this board at least a step closer than a complete stranger.

But hey, if all you guys want are feel-good show off threads then fine, I'll stay away from these threads in the future and let you guys at it.


Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 6:09am
I think that would probably be best.

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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 6:18am
Originally posted by pokerpete pokerpete wrote:

what rubber is your buddy using now on his forhand...it sounds real nice!
I didn't see this until now, there was such a lot to read when I got up this morning.
 
He was using Express (don't know which number) on his FH on the last vid, I didn't ask him this time. I am using Galaxy Jupiter on a T-4.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGShBxEKnDk%20rel=" rel="nofollow - I once could serve


Posted By: DTopSpirit
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 6:47am
Originally posted by MildSeven MildSeven wrote:

You guys are feeding and perpetuating a mob mentality that is just so dispicable. BS like this was what kept me away from the board for 5 years the last time around.

LiXiao never made any untrue or unfair comments. There were glaring strengths and blatant weaknesses revealed in that video that those of us not up to JKC playing level can still recognize.

DTopSpirit needs to shut the f**k up about that 'class' bullsh*t. There is nothing classy about a yes-man or someone who just rains praises on others. I avoid dealing with those kinds of people at work and even moreso privately. Friends tell each other the truth, and for me at least, I have considered the people of this board at least a step closer than a complete stranger.

But hey, if all you guys want are feel-good show off threads then fine, I'll stay away from these threads in the future and let you guys at it.


Nothing like having someone else prove your point for you. Am shutting up now! LOL


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Posted By: lildudejds
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 9:41am
Originally posted by popperlocker popperlocker wrote:

Ease up on li xiao guys, he's talks a lot of smack, but it livens up the forum. And a 1000 usatt rating for a young guy is impressive. With a usatt 1000 rating you could beat around 80+% of the 200 million US population, and I'm sure li xiao can win lots of people on this forum.


Maybe, but truthfully, 1000 usatt isn't that impressive. How old is he? I train with a 13 year old who is 2350 and a 15 year old who is 2550.

Now, I don't mean to bag on him or anything, all I'm sayin is, before he starts with his comments, he needs to show us a video of him or something! Like someone mentioned earlier, talk the talk AND walk the walk.

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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 10:06am
I never said JKC wasn't a good player, I just said he needed to work on his fitness, which would improve his game more. And not to make up excuses but one reason my rating is so low is because living in the North East for table tennis sucks. Only two tournaments in my state per year, the nearest club is over an hour away, and its not like I can just hop on a plain and head out to Cali.

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Posted By: Recanter
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 10:21am
Oh you're the one in the lighter shirt? Well to be honest, and assuming you want my honest opinion :)

From the video, I can't even guess your fitness since I've seen young military types trim and taut get heart attacks outta thin air... so fitness is somewhat hard to determine lol

As for the stroke, your counter hitting is fine in fact its great! The only thing I see is that when you counter loop, your legs are not bending enough and your elbow comes up, so your stroke, goes across the body instead of forward. Keep the elbow down and you'll be dominating!


But having said that, whatever works for you to win is most important :)

My coach would say that an athlete's ultimate speech is in his game.

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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 10:23am
The main thing which holds me back at the moment is a lack of sharpness due to a lack of practice against good quality practice partners. This isn't a new thing though, I haven't trained properly with anyone better than me for the last 15 years. I try to stay sharp by playing against the better players a couple of times per week in league matches, but it isn't really enough. If I wanted to progress now, I would have to find the good players who want to practice too which isn't always easy. If I did step up the the quality of practice I'm sure my fitness would quickly become an issue and I would choose to do something about it. But my level of fitness is good enough to play at a level I am happy playing. By my age we all have families and other priorities and much less time do do with as we wish.

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Posted By: brytaku25
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 10:57am
Originally posted by Recanter Recanter wrote:

My coach would say that an athlete's ultimate speech is in his game.

I shouted CHO during a game once. That's my ultimate speech?

Also JKC, I think you are good for a man at that age and fitness. I'm sure your gonna be good with:
  • a good older than you Chinese Coach
  • diet
  • 2 hours per day
In fact if you play more than 5 hours, I guess you will be fit when the time comes.


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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 11:29am
Originally posted by brytaku25 brytaku25 wrote:



Also JKC, I think you are good for a man at that age and fitness. I'm sure your gonna be good with:
  • a good older than you Chinese Coach
  • diet
  • 2 hours per day
In fact if you play more than 5 hours, I guess you will be fit when the time comes.
 
I'm not really planning any of those things, so I will have to remain mediocre.


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Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 11:41am
Oh, this thread is getting more interesting by the posts.. LOL

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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 1:43pm
This thread is just missing one thing - the US Rating argument. I usually enjoy that bit the best.

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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 1:59pm
its hard to place a rating on a game like yours I think. The reason being is because no one can see what goes on in your head, since you have a very smart game versus someone who looks textbook and has just raw stroke technique.. I saw someone at a tournament on saturday from africa, who looked very nice stroke wise. Very fundamental, textbook smooth strokes. But Houshang Bozorgzadeh beat him 3-1. and if anyone has seen him play- he plays hardbat with a very smart game. At first glance you would think the guy from africa would dominate, but Houshang won easily.
 
Kind of different, but the point I'm trying to make is it's harder to place an estimated rating on someone with a smart game instead of someone with technique only because you never know what kind of thoughts/strategies someone has and you never know how far they can go with it and who they can beat with it.


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Posted By: lildudejds
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 2:04pm
Originally posted by Juan King Carlo Juan King Carlo wrote:

This thread is just missing one thing - the US Rating argument. I usually enjoy that bit the best.


LOLZ, yeah.....if you asked for an estimate people would be giving you anywhere from 1300 to 2300

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Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 2:09pm
I missed the last round of debate on JKC's estimated USATT level. Should we start with USATT 1500 and move up? Ha HA. LOL. JKC is easily over USATT 2200. 

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Posted By: Rich215
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 2:28pm
I agree with the rating/ability difference.  It depends on who you play and how you can adapt or control the game if possible.  It's almost like golf to me, but in golf...your playing against yourself mostly.

I just enjoy seeing other people playing regardless of what ranking they are.  That is why I wanted to see liXiao in some vid.  I just want to see how he hits thats all, not to critique his ability or bag on him.  Heck, bag on me when I post up a clip of myself hitting, I wont take anything personally because I dont really care at what level I am currently at.  I just love playing and I enjoy seeing others post clips of themselves. 




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Posted By: lildudejds
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 3:08pm
Originally posted by Rich215 Rich215 wrote:

I agree with the rating/ability difference.  It depends on who you play and how you can adapt or control the game if possible.  It's almost like golf to me, but in golf...your playing against yourself mostly. I just enjoy seeing other people playing regardless of what ranking they are.  That is why I wanted to see liXiao in some vid.  I just want to see how he hits thats all, not to critique his ability or bag on him.  Heck, bag on me when I post up a clip of myself hitting, I wont take anything personally because I dont really care at what level I am currently at.  I just love playing and I enjoy seeing others post clips of themselves. 


This is respectable stuff. Some of us(myself included) should view the game more like you do!

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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 3:16pm
I would like to see more vids of others for a similar reason and to put a face (or even a body shape) to the well known names on here. It is a shame I haven't got any recent vids of me playing other people, as this would help others to form a more balanced opinion of my game. Who knows, there is a possibility that I could find myself up against a very good chopper at the next British League match. That could be interesting.

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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 3:32pm
Originally posted by Juan King Carlo Juan King Carlo wrote:

Originally posted by pokerpete pokerpete wrote:

what rubber is your buddy using now on his forhand...it sounds real nice!
I didn't see this until now, there was such a lot to read when I got up this morning.
 
He was using Express (don't know which number) on his FH on the last vid, I didn't ask him this time. I am using Galaxy Jupiter on a T-4.

Did Iqbar speedglue?  That Joola Express corks so loud.


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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 3:37pm

lol I have video of me on saturday playing the Iowa Games. In my RR for age division, i drew the best player in iowa who is a 2300 level player from india. I could post that video! but it would probably make us both look horrible! haha.

I did get two flip winners on his serves in the match though.. made me feel great! It's the first time i got to see myself on video, and It REALLY opened my eyes to how bad I am lol. I never knew seeing yourself could help your game so much though.. I see so much I do wrong and now know what to fix.
 
 


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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 3:39pm
I don't think he glues. He just hits the ball very hard. He uses a Schlager Carbon and has the speed of stroke to get quite a bit out of it. If he was still gluing I think he would probably still be using bryce, as he has the power to really get the ball into the sponge and get the spin to go with the speed. Most people who used Bryce didn't hit hard enough to get the best from it and would heve been better with something which allowed them to spin the ball more.

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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 3:42pm
Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

lol I have video of me on saturday playing the Iowa Games. In my RR for age division, i drew the best player in iowa who is a 2300 level player from india. I could post that video! but it would probably make us both look horrible! haha.

I did get two flip winners on his serves in the match though.. made me feel great! It's the first time i got to see myself on video, and It REALLY opened my eyes to how bad I am lol. I never knew seeing yourself could help your game so much though.. I see so much I do wrong and now know what to fix.
 
 
The video is a great tool to help you to improve your game or in some cases to help you to decide that there is too much to do and that you are better off settling for what you have.

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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 3:45pm
I see.  What are your guys game records against each other?  It seems like you probably would often outplay Iqbar with your control and placement.


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Posted By: Rich215
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 3:48pm
lil  Wink  same to you! 

DTopSpirit..... thanks for your efforts and work to help so many with this fun sport! 

MildSeven...your name dosnt fit you well my friend.  lol   (sarcasim)  I think it's just that alot here are tired of the way liXiao comes across as being naive and  seemingly notti.  But then he proves them right when he replys in regards to being called out on it.  He points out the obvious as most kids do. Yes he is a child, hopefully his common sense will develop sooner than later.

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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 3:56pm
Originally posted by GenomicsKnight GenomicsKnight wrote:

I see.  What are your guys game records against each other?  It seems like you probably would often outplay Iqbar with your control and placement.
I have never lost to him in a competitive match. He takes some games in practice and sometimes it is even. For me though practice never seems like the real thing and no matter how I try to focus I never play like I do in a proper match. The camera does help to focus me a little too. Normally I tend to do much more lobbing and just keeping the ball in play in practice and a bit less positive play at the table.

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Posted By: DTopSpirit
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by Rich215 Rich215 wrote:

lil  Wink  same to you! 

DTopSpirit..... thanks for your efforts and work to help so many with this fun sport! 

MildSeven...your name dosnt fit you well my friend.  lol   (sarcasim)  I think it's just that alot here are tired of the way liXiao comes across as being naive and  seemingly notti.  But then he proves them right when he replys in regards to being called out on it.  He points out the obvious as most kids do. Yes he is a child, hopefully his common sense will develop sooner than later.


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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 5:51pm
Ive always wanted to record a video of myself, but I dont have any form of recording device, Nor do I have a suitable hitting partner to pla with, there are some kids at my school but most are easy to beat =/

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Posted By: Piri
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 6:02pm
Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

lol I have video of me on saturday playing the Iowa Games. In my RR for age division, i drew the best player in iowa who is a 2300 level player from india. I could post that video! but it would probably make us both look horrible! haha.

I did get two flip winners on his serves in the match though.. made me feel great! It's the first time i got to see myself on video, and It REALLY opened my eyes to how bad I am lol. I never knew seeing yourself could help your game so much though.. I see so much I do wrong and now know what to fix.
 
 


Post the video!Clap


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Posted By: zrrbiteDK
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 6:07pm
JKC might not be the fittest person outthere, but so what? You've got to play to your strengths and work with what you've got, and JKC does a good job at it judging by that video.

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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 6:13pm
But arent you only as strong as your weakest link, and you can never say so what to the weakest part of your game.

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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 6:19pm
You are as strong as your weakest link if you allow your opponent to attack that link.

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Posted By: Wawaicetea123
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 9:15pm
I enjoyed watching. I am 17 but I am actually a year away from becoming a certified coach in the US and have been coaching beside my coach for a couple of years and my advice would to learn to use your body for its own benefits and advantages. If you can learn to shift your body weight from your back foot to your front foot while leaning in to the ball you will have great power. Learn to bend Your knees a bit and exaggerate the salute on your forehand. You don't need to be in the best shape to be play well to. I have seen a guy much larger than you who was 2300.(US) Keep up the practice and try to keep some of that in mind. I promise it will help.

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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 9:38pm
Originally posted by Juan King Carlo Juan King Carlo wrote:

You are as strong as your weakest link if you allow your opponent to attack that link.
Well then your opponent must not have been that smart if he missed the obvious.

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Posted By: Swiff
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 10:53pm
Wow am I behind in reading.  I read about the first 40 posts and hoped that was enough. 
 
Juan King Carlo!  You're pretty good!  I don't know if it matters to you, but if it does, you're stroke could use some work. I'm sure you've heard that.  Once you get into the 2200-2500 I'm guessing, that the stroke will start to hold you back.  Backhand and forehand are both POWERFUL and you can flip using both!  Sweet! 
 
Don't listen to certain people talk about your weight, it affects your play at higher levels, but not that big of a deal.  ESPECIALLY now, at your level.  It's not about the size you are, it's about your speed and how well you move! :)
 
Another thing I noticed, LIXIAO!  lol  Dude LiXiao can you post ONE thing with out pissing someone off or offending someone????  I've never met you, I know, but over the internet, I can personally say that I just don't like you.  (Not an insult.  So everyone, don't go turning this into a big thing )  Just how I feel.   And I also have a feeling I'm not alone.
 
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Posted By: Valerikim
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 11:11pm
Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

I am 976 usatt, I have played, ONE MATCH. I would be alot higher if there was at least one tourney near me.
 
What is your USATT ID? Is this you: http://www.usatt.org/history/rating/history/Phistory.asp?Pid=61469 - http://www.usatt.org/history/rating/history/Phistory.asp?Pid=61469 ?


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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/26/2009 at 11:40pm
Nice vid JKC!!!

I really enjoy playing people like JKC: all round players who can do about everything including top spinning/looping from both wings any kind of balls, chop, hit... The player I see on the video can do that consistently, serves and returns serves and bh loops over the table when returning serves to take initiative and advantage back from serving oponent.
I am no expert but I'd say in the clubs around Seattle he would win anybody up to 2000 anytime and would have a win sometimes on a good day against 2000 to 2100 players. Over 2100 he would need to be in a very good day with the other in a pretty bad one...
So he has the level of an usatt 2000 expert and people generally compare that expert level to black belt in martial arts, where everything really starts...

Forum member Valerikim will tell you more about what his level would be around Seattle (?)


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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/27/2009 at 3:51am
Swiffers, I don't listen to talk about my weight. I was quite a bit lighter about 15 months ago and playing worse than now. It is more in the mind with me.

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Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 01/27/2009 at 6:26am
I don't think you should lose any weight JKC..
I think your weight is fine, plus you can also hide your serve better with your current weight.. LOL

I especially like your FH loop, it dips low over the net. I imagine it would be very hard to hit a strong re-loop pass you if someone backs up from the table.. If I play you, I probably will try to stay close to the table as much as i can..

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Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 01/27/2009 at 6:30am

LiXiao, until JKC gets to the really elite level, like top 25 in his country, his weight isn't such a factor as much as the rest of his game. Weight and fitness are two different things. Weight is being heavy and is composition is measured in both body fat and muscle mass. Fit is being able to cope with physical (and mental as well) demands for the situation. For his level, JKC is easily fit enough - probably fitter than most of his opponents. Some jokers look at me and my age and aren't worried about me in basketball, that is until I get most of the rebounds, make a lot of assists, hustle my ass off, have my way inside scoring, and on the open court as well as lockdown my opponent. Being a little lighter isn't so important until you reach the highest levels. Appearances can be deceptive. I personally like it when someone takes me for granted. It makes my task easier.

Dude, just about every digital camera made since 5 years ago can take at least 3 minutes of 320x30 vid, which is average youtube stuff. New, you can get 'em for $100 and way cheaper used. If you postpone buying one sheet of Tenergy, you can easily get a used digicam from ebay or somewhere, get a $10 or less 2GB SD Ram card (or whatever your camera takes) and a $14 collapsable tripod from Walmart. You can easily outfit yourself for under $100 USD and put up your vids, because you already have an internet connection, probably broadband. Youtube and Veoh accounts are free. Windows Movie Maker is free software that comes with Windows on every laptop and PC. Most PCs/Laptops can read SC cards or you can use USB cable. It is all very easy to do and low cost, most of it just in getting equipment.
 
You don't even need opponents to make some vids of your strokes - you could drop a ball off the floor and loop it. Serves are the best thing to vid alone. You post your serves in a vid on the forums and you are GUARENTEED to get comments. You'll like some and not others. Either way, if you do it and take advice (a lot of the forumers either know more than us or can still point out something to help or share something to motivate us) you will CERTAINLY improve in all the areas you ask for comments. At USATT 1000, you will certaily benefit from it. Some of my friends on other forums are USATT 2200 level and still ask for help to point stuff out.
 
Give posting a few strokes and serves a shot LiXiao. You obviously have a lot of love for TT and want to get better. Try it out. Although I am among the most cynical humans on this planet, I promise keep it professional in any comments I make towards your performance in your vids. A lot of people are afraid to show themselves to the forum mates. You are not among that number. Give it a shot guy.
 
I asked LiXiao in particular to make some vids, but anyone who does it can benefit. You just gotta be level headed like JKC to accept what follows and make something from it.


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Posted By: LachlanTan
Date Posted: 01/27/2009 at 6:42am
Originally posted by Valerikim Valerikim wrote:

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

I am 976 usatt, I have played, ONE MATCH. I would be alot higher if there was at least one tourney near me.
 
What is your USATT ID? Is this you: http://www.usatt.org/history/rating/history/Phistory.asp?Pid=61469 - http://www.usatt.org/history/rating/history/Phistory.asp?Pid=61469 ?
Chinese name?


Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 01/27/2009 at 6:49am
Originally posted by Valerikim Valerikim wrote:

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

I am 976 usatt, I have played, ONE MATCH. I would be alot higher if there was at least one tourney near me.
 
What is your USATT ID? Is this you: http://www.usatt.org/history/rating/history/Phistory.asp?Pid=61469 - http://www.usatt.org/history/rating/history/Phistory.asp?Pid=61469 ?
 
That is the MD Circuit tourney near Baltimore. That club at the shopping center runs at least two tournies a month! There are a LOT of clubs in the Washington DC and Baltimore area (Club Joola, MDTTC, MDTTA, Potomic, and Gunston just two name several) and minimum two or three tournies a month going on there. Now I don't live there, but visited for a few weeks. I played once in the Giant Round Robin at the same club. If Li lives within an hour or two of Balt/DC, then he can do a tourney pretty much anytime. If that is him, I will hold off making comments until I see some more match results. It is too easy for someone to be under rated and it takes a few tournies for the ratings to reflect the level of the player. Even with that, someone could be quickly improving. It happens a lot, so I will hold out until I see some more match results. Could also be that Li was just visiting as well and took advantage of doing a tourney. He picked a good place to do it though. Lots of good folk in those parts and several forum members who do tournies at that venue.


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Posted By: jossix
Date Posted: 01/27/2009 at 8:35am
 Swiffers,as moderator you openly  confess your personal dislike for another forum member.This is not good. If the forum member was to get banned /suspended for whatever reason.you cant blame any one for assuming that your personal biased feelings had a hand in that decision. even though it might not be so..  just saying


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/27/2009 at 9:11am
Originally posted by jossix jossix wrote:

 Swiffers,as moderator you openly  confess your personal dislike for another forum member.This is not good. If the forum member was to get banned /suspended for whatever reason.you cant blame any one for assuming that your personal biased feelings had a hand in that decision. even though it might not be so..  just saying


I would say (only as a member) +1 if I did not know that they are about the same age. When you are around 20yo "I don't like you" is not nearly as powerful as "I could ban you".
However I agree with you jossix that we should always act and communicate on the forum as ageless people, assuming that the other can be 12yo or 90yo, making sure postings do not affect the feelings of either. But how would you know at 16yo never to hurt a 40yo by making innocent remarks on his fitness? maybe by reading in between lines of people's reactions .
Frankly I do not have any problem with LiXiao I think his insolence is one of the charms of teenage and that he does not mean to hurt. Just give him time to learn how to adapt his language so slowly he does not make people have hissy fits. I have to say that his talent to have everybody just go off all at once just amazes me (and amuses me too I confess). 
Francois Mitterrand (funny and smart french President 1981-1995 who abolished death penalty, gave retirement to 60yo and created the 'very big library') used to say "We need to give time to time". I think that was the funniest political statement ever but it definitely applies here.
Anyway this is theman's territory and I just gave my view as a member.


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Posted By: IAmI
Date Posted: 01/27/2009 at 9:29am

Nice fatt Thumbs%20Up



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Posted By: jossix
Date Posted: 01/27/2009 at 10:03am
great stuff fatt- we should expect this balanced approach from all moderators..


Posted By: Low Tek
Date Posted: 01/27/2009 at 10:03am
Originally posted by jossix jossix wrote:

 Swiffers,as moderator you openly  confess your personal dislike for another forum member.This is not good. If the forum member was to get banned /suspended for whatever reason.you cant blame any one for assuming that your personal biased feelings had a hand in that decision. even though it might not be so..  just saying


Having been a moderator on several forums, I can honestly say that I hated comments like that. People often think that once you gain moderator status that you have been elevated to some sort of demi-god status where you can never have an opinion or speak negatively about a topic of interest. Yeah Swiffers is a mod, but he's STILL a member too. Just because he has responsibilities on this site doesn't mean he has to stop posting.

And honestly, his opinion was very well stated. I didn't see any insults or venom in his post. LiXiao, whether you mean it or not, you come off very brunt and often harsh in your criticisms of other members. It doesn't seem to matter if its about a posted video or an opinion on someone's favorite player, you voice your opinion and don't seem to care what anyone else thinks. Like I said, whether its intentional or not, that is how people view you on this forum and only you can change that (unless you enjoy the negative attention).

As for Juan King Carlo, great vid. Do you have any videos of you playing other players? It seems like you have your friend Iqbal's game pretty much figured out. I'd love to see you against another style.


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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/27/2009 at 10:23am
Originally posted by jossix jossix wrote:

great stuff fatt- we should expect this balanced approach from all moderators..


again i was not moderating anything here...Wink

about the quote :"we need to give time to time": I realize it has a double sense in English and that it may mean "we need to be generous sometimes" and that was not the meaning. The true meaning was "We need to be patient" or (funnier) "We need to give a chance to time to let things happen".
I am glad I had an opportunity to talk about that funny piece of history of French politics.



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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/27/2009 at 4:35pm
Originally posted by Low Tek Low Tek wrote:

 As for Juan King Carlo, great vid. Do you have any videos of you playing other players? It seems like you have your friend Iqbal's game pretty much figured out. I'd love to see you against another style.
I have a few older ones of matches but these are all on video and I don't have the technology to transfer them at the moment. I am hopeful that I will get a few vids at my next British League weekend in 3 weeks and if the orders of players in the teams works out I should be playing wiggy (an infamous member of a few forums for those of you who don't go on any others) and hopefully his mate who is a pretty good chopper. I will post the vids on here of course even though one of the first five posts in the thread is likely to be LiXiao commenting on my lack of fitness.

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Posted By: Ginko Tai Kim
Date Posted: 01/27/2009 at 5:01pm
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Originally posted by jossix jossix wrote:

great stuff fatt- we should expect this balanced approach from all moderators..


again i was not moderating anything here...Wink

about the quote :"we need to give time to time": I realize it has a double sense in English and that it may mean "we need to be generous sometimes" and that was not the meaning. The true meaning was "We need to be patient" or (funnier) "We need to give a chance to time to let things happen".
I am glad I had an opportunity to talk about that funny piece of history of French politics.



Hehehe that's right all moderators should be treated like forum members foremost and moderators when they need too..


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Posted By: Swiff
Date Posted: 01/28/2009 at 2:33am

That's right, I don't want to be thought of differently being mod.  I feel and post the same as before.  Actually the ONLY thing different is that I can help out.  I did not insult LiXiao in any way or call him a name.  Nor did I post a rude comment or reply. 

Opinions are open on this forum, I don't like him the way I don't like certain TT brands, rubbers or equipments.  I don't like him the way I don't like headlice.  ...  or germs.  w/e


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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/30/2009 at 3:53am
I asked valerikim today and he said jkc is around 2200, underlining a good touch. I bet i got confused by the video showing people a bit under their level as we spoke earlier this month.
Next time I'll add 10% to whatever I think the person's rating is when I see a video.



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Posted By: IAmI
Date Posted: 01/30/2009 at 4:04am
True. When I watch myself on tape it makes me wanna poke my eyes out. I always go like "OMG how can this guy be playing the same league as myself and even have the same W/L ratio as me!!"  LOL

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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/30/2009 at 6:18am
That is the difficult thing about forums to me. No one really knows how good anyone really is and whether they really know what they are talking about. I might give advice saying a blade has good control or something, but I have pretty good touch myself and can control most bats whereas someone less experienced or used to something slower would say it had poor control.
I am ranked in the top 200 in England if that gives any more clues, personally I don't think that vids do me justice as there is a considerable amount of spin on many of those shots and serves which just doesn't show.


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Posted By: Speedplay
Date Posted: 01/30/2009 at 7:34pm
JKC, you are doing it all wrong and you are totally unfit. The only thing that has me baffled is that your opponent looks very fit and has a good set of strokes but yet he loses to you.

I'm surprised so few have noticed this dilemma when the criticise your game.

It is easy to claim that you don't move around, but in all honesty, in the video I watched, you reached to the ball in time, so why should you move any more? Perhaps good players run a lap around the table before they hit, simple to prove how fit they are? Or, is it the 976 rated players who do this? I don't know...

As for your technique, it is horrible! Yet you seem to have higher consistency then me and your opponent looks troubled by a lot of your returns, so I guess it isn't important how your strokes looks, what is important is the results you get with them.

I've seen players with flawless techniques being beaten by players looking like basement noobs, so looks can be deceptive, but you are not fooling me JKC, I know that you are surely pass 2000 Usatt, but I dare not guess how much.

I dare however guess that you would beat anyone under 1000 Usatt even if you played left handed and had both of your feet nailed to the floor. But still, I think you should listen to their advice, cause they might be excellent coaches and you might pick up a thing or two to improve your game!

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Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/30/2009 at 7:39pm
I'll take that on board Speedplay. Tomorrow, I'll get a divorce, give up my job, send the kids to live with Granny and start on my new fitness regime. Then when I am ultra fit I will dedicate the rest of my life to TT. Anyone want a knock?LOL

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGShBxEKnDk%20rel=" rel="nofollow - I once could serve


Posted By: lildudejds
Date Posted: 01/30/2009 at 7:49pm
Originally posted by Speedplay Speedplay wrote:

JKC, you are doing it all wrong and you are totally unfit. The only thing that has me baffled is that your opponent looks very fit and has a good set of strokes but yet he loses to you.

I'm surprised so few have noticed this dilemma when the criticise your game.

It is easy to claim that you don't move around, but in all honesty, in the video I watched, you reached to the ball in time, so why should you move any more? Perhaps good players run a lap around the table before they hit, simple to prove how fit they are? Or, is it the 976 rated players who do this? I don't know...

As for your technique, it is horrible! Yet you seem to have higher consistency then me and your opponent looks troubled by a lot of your returns, so I guess it isn't important how your strokes looks, what is important is the results you get with them.

I've seen players with flawless techniques being beaten by players looking like basement noobs, so looks can be deceptive, but you are not fooling me JKC, I know that you are surely pass 2000 Usatt, but I dare not guess how much.

I dare however guess that you would beat anyone under 1000 Usatt even if you played left handed and had both of your feet nailed to the floor. But still, I think you should listen to their advice, cause they might be excellent coaches and you might pick up a thing or two to improve your game!


Psh. All this coming from a guy who plays with long pips. Everyone knows that only people with no skills use long pips to cover up the fact that they suck. Real players play inverted.

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Posted By: Speedplay
Date Posted: 01/30/2009 at 7:50pm
Haha, shows how up to date you are lil! I play anti now and have been doing so for some time now. Anti is the new LP, didn't you know that? =)

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Posted By: lildudejds
Date Posted: 01/30/2009 at 7:55pm
Yeah, anti is the new LP, for losers. You disgust me.


Jay Slash Kay! I'd be scared of you still I hate the way loops come back from anti! And to make sure people who don't understand the art of sarcasm know, ANTI AND LP DOES TAKE SKILL TO USE.



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Posted By: Tinykin_2
Date Posted: 01/30/2009 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by Juan King Carlo Juan King Carlo wrote:

Originally posted by Low Tek Low Tek wrote:

 As for Juan King Carlo, great vid. Do you have any videos of you playing other players? It seems like you have your friend Iqbal's game pretty much figured out. I'd love to see you against another style.
I have a few older ones of matches but these are all on video and I don't have the technology to transfer them at the moment. .


JKC I have a device called Pinnacle video Transfer which is supposed to be the thing to use. If you are at JBL this weekend I can give you a long loan.




Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/30/2009 at 8:19pm
I won't be at JBL, but could possibly get there if it is close. Which venue is it at?
I could do my wedding vids too and score some brownie points with the wife.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGShBxEKnDk%20rel=" rel="nofollow - I once could serve


Posted By: Tinykin_2
Date Posted: 01/31/2009 at 3:41am
JBL will be at Wolverhampton. The next event after that is Doncaster. Will you be there? I won't, but a couple of others from here will probably be there.


Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 01/31/2009 at 3:47am
I don't tend to be involved in the JBL stuff, maybe in a couple of years.Wink
 
I'll probably leave it for now. I should have a chance to record more stuff at the next BL weekend anyway in 3 weeks.
 
Thanks for the kind offer though.


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