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Topic: my new vid
Posted By: tpgh2k
Subject: my new vid
Date Posted: 11/17/2009 at 7:48am
Hey guys,

I was testing out my new camcorder to see how it would record. anyways, it's a vid of my doing bh loop vs. underspin.

comments always welcome!!

http:// http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWGRqyEjXzA - www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWGRqyEjXzA


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Posted By: shamoo
Date Posted: 11/17/2009 at 12:59pm
Thanks for the vid, always useful to see these.

Camcorder wise, a little closer zoom or crop would be nice.

Form wise, you do a little mini backhand with your left hand, might decrease consistency. Weight on back of heels esp from forehand court. I think bending knee and back more would add power and reduce need to generate all power from arm.


Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 11/17/2009 at 2:10pm
yea, i was too lazy to zoom in, next time i'll just crop the video. i was told that if i bend my knees more it'll get easier. i'll have to do that next time, or be more conscious of it. =)

thanks for the input!!


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Posted By: jpingchow123
Date Posted: 11/17/2009 at 6:48pm
I like the quality that camera produces.

I don't know if it is just how I practice, but the practice speed seemed kind of slow.

One thing that I notice is that since the ball is being split, it looks like you kind of move to where the ball is going to be before it is given. I've been told watch where the ball goes, then move.

But other than that awesome.


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Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 11/17/2009 at 10:11pm
yea, just working on getting into position and working on setting up my body for the shot. i'll probably start working on upping the tempo later on.

i really like the camera for sure. i'm fiddling with the settings and my editing software.


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Posted By: t3h anarchist
Date Posted: 11/17/2009 at 11:04pm
i think you are using too much wrist action, also ur stroke starts too low, that kind of accounts for inconsistency you were tlakin about

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Posted By: bumpernets19
Date Posted: 11/17/2009 at 11:10pm
Is that a coach or a member of the team because it hits the blade on the table every single time in the whole entire video...just wondering if he is concious that he is doing that...if I had any equipment that nice, I wouldn't be hitting it on the table on purpose every time...i try to take care of what I do have...great vid!

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Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 11/18/2009 at 12:33am
actually starting the bat low is a conscious effort =). the main point of this exercise is to spin the ball to the point where the ball just dips onto the table. hence the reason why the bat starts low and the wrist action is added to the motion.

as for my team mate banging onto the table, it is a conscious thing also, he's not very worried about the blade. =)

i'll keep on working on the techniques and more vids will be coming! it'll be a short compilation of our latest nctta qualifier!


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Posted By: Anton Chigurh
Date Posted: 11/18/2009 at 4:28am
Originally posted by tpgh2k tpgh2k wrote:

actually starting the bat low is a conscious effort =). the main point of this exercise is to spin the ball to the point where the ball just dips onto the table. hence the reason why the bat starts low and the wrist action is added to the motion.

as for my team mate banging onto the table, it is a conscious thing also, he's not very worried about the blade. =)

i'll keep on working on the techniques and more vids will be coming! it'll be a short compilation of our latest nctta qualifier!
 
You are correct to start your bat low, when looping against underspin. For the most part, you look on track to me. Like myself, you might remind yourself that the power comes from the legs and not the arm. Otherwise, like I said, looking good on the backhand loop. Big%20smile 


Posted By: myttus
Date Posted: 11/18/2009 at 9:46am
Any forehand videos?



Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 11/18/2009 at 5:05pm
i'll probably shoot one soon. just working on a highlight video right now.

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Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 11/21/2009 at 2:28am
thanks for moving the post mods!! neways...here's the video highlight of our last tournament!! =D enjoy guys!

http:// http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oza2h8Blr10 - www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oza2h8Blr10


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Posted By: Heimdallalso
Date Posted: 11/21/2009 at 3:41am
I wish I could offer something useful but I'm really not able (I'm a short pips non-standard bh player)

what I can do is ask you who in the world sprayed the floor with silicone before you drilled?
That was ridiculous... really.
With no good footing it would be very difficult to drill.
You were sliding like crazy right?
Are my eyes playing tricks on me?


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Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 11/21/2009 at 5:18am
I think you improved quite a lot since you were in Vietnam.


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 11/21/2009 at 6:32am
try doing medium or short swings when doing a counter against a loop. your swings are too long. also try to remember the level of your racket should be similar with the ball's level if its not a chopped ball (that is when hitting or looping a ball that has topspin)

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Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 11/21/2009 at 10:34am
heh thnx a lot everyone!

@skyline: i feel like i've gotten slower since vietnam though...=(

@heim: yea the gym was crap when it came to the floor. feels like it hasn't been washed in years. had to water my shoes in order to get brief grip...

@yogi: i feel like that is my biggest concern. i hope over time i'll get better at it.


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Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 11/21/2009 at 11:37am
I feel you still holding back on your shots, you need to contact the ball more solid and with more confidence.. your technique is good but you need to maximize them..
Your serve is too one dimensional you need to vary the spin, length and placement..


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Posted By: asr1990
Date Posted: 11/21/2009 at 5:29pm
None of the players in the tournament video returned serve that well unless long and was attacked, there was no use of the short game and keeping it tight something worth thinking about

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Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 11/22/2009 at 2:32am
@asr: that's actually what i've been working on a bit last friday. just playing some short serves. tried some short topspin (similar to zang jike) and i have no idea how he keeps the ball so short and low. i usually can find the second bounce near the edge of the table (which is good) but it would be cool if i could shorten it more....

i still need to build up more confidence in my shots b/c i feel like they're not that consistent yet...especially my bh. that's why you see me guiding the ball so much.

Thanks so much asr! i appreciate the help =).


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Posted By: Heimdallalso
Date Posted: 11/23/2009 at 11:39am
Originally posted by tpgh2k tpgh2k wrote:

thanks for moving the post mods!! neways...here's the video highlight of our last tournament!! =D enjoy guys!

http:// http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oza2h8Blr10 - www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oza2h8Blr10


tpgh2k, Is this the same location? I noticed plenty of you sliding again...
what I didn't add earlier (or add clearly enough) is that a stable base would be soooo much better
enough of that

(this refers to the FH side as I'm not really "qualified" to analyze your BH)
What I really noticed from the tournament vid was you trying to spin high balls when they could (& should have been) loop-driven & MANY of them flat hit or smashed.
I'm not trying to be negative but am trying to call your attention to this possibility. There may be a time to spin a high ball like the ones seen in the vid yet I am fairly certain, many many of those balls should have been flat hit or driven.
When you find the bounce of your opponents shot clearly above the net
consider/visualize a straight line through the ball & drive through it with considerable vigor.
The speed allowed you & produced here should gain you an advantage, if not the point outright.
If it doesn't you still have the benefit of mixing up the tempo & spin/less spin/low spin/no spin of your game & this may cause your opponent to err.


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Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 11/23/2009 at 11:48am
sadly it's not the same place, much worse floors (but softer on the knees). yea, i really should have gotten on top of the balls and just loop-drive the hell out of them. that's why in two of the clips my loops went long. in the raw footage it was a lot more often. 

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Posted By: figgie
Date Posted: 11/23/2009 at 2:25pm
tpgh2k
 
the backhand loop looks good except (you knew that was coming ;) )
 
The arm movement is spot on, but I don't see the leg inclusion needed to be lifting balls CONSISTANTLY. In that video, the backhand is just arms, no legs. Need to find a way to get those legs in the form.
 
On the 2nd video.
 
Those high balls, you are making them yes but need to find a way to spin them less and flat hit them more. Losing lots of power because you are spinning the ball instead.
 
Be mindful of your serves, couple of times the server where "fluffy" and that first player looped them as he should have.


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Posted By: Rich215
Date Posted: 11/23/2009 at 7:56pm
Why is dalamchops chopping into the table with the rubber-less side of a blade?  You guys trying to get a new table..Or is he putting racing stripes on it? 



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Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 11/28/2009 at 11:31pm
Originally posted by myttus myttus wrote:

Any forehand videos?



as requested, i put up a short fh video. not my best work but whatever =P.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_5iSIWSDkM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_5iSIWSDkM


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Posted By: Jeff(ATTC)
Date Posted: 11/29/2009 at 2:36am
It's looking good man:)

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Posted By: MildSeven
Date Posted: 11/29/2009 at 3:03am
You should serve underspin and have it pushed back to you. Your partner can give you much stronger spin that way and it is more realistic rhythm because you are practicing a 3rd ball situation. It just a much better use of time and effort because you practice your service, backhand loop, spin reading, pivot positioning (from service motion into backhand loop position), etc all at once instead of just looping duds.


Posted By: qynthnghm
Date Posted: 11/29/2009 at 3:48am
Nice video quality + bh loop. It's better than mine, that's for sure. I also noticed that your shoes were sliding around on that gym floor.

On an unrelated note: Where did you come up with your username?


Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 11/29/2009 at 9:11am
ahh, the username actually came from the first letters of my full name jumbled around =).

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Posted By: holda
Date Posted: 11/29/2009 at 12:46pm
Originally posted by tpgh2k tpgh2k wrote:

thanks for moving the post mods!! neways...here's the video highlight of our last tournament!! =D enjoy guys!http:// http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oza2h8Blr10 - www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oza2h8Blr10

Where was this video recorded,Tuan?What is a name of this place?

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Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 11/29/2009 at 12:52pm
Your body seems too stiff, loosen up a bit.. tpgh..



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Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 11/29/2009 at 1:19pm
Originally posted by dragon kid dragon kid wrote:

Your body seems too stiff, loosen up a bit.. tpgh..



lol i would loosen it even more if i could. for i feel like that vid did show my "loose" body motions =x...

@holda: it's called Georgia State University Recreation Center =D.


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Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 11/30/2009 at 8:27am
i loved the part on the illegal serves!  finally cracking down on these players!

your fh hitting did look a bit stiff, but i do like how its a chinese stroke Thumbs%20Up


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Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 11/30/2009 at 10:46am
you should see when i really wind up for power loops =p. 

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