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    Posted: 08/24/2022 at 11:59am
https://www.ittf.com/tournament/2535/2022-WTTC-Finals-Chengdu/#information

CTTA has just announced the selection criteria for the 5 team members.

Direct entry for the top 4 players by 2022 Week 34 of ITTF TTWR. The top 50 players and those who have participated in the singles of WTT FEE/CT/SCT 2022 and WTT SCT/CS/FEE ESS 2022, or 6 men and 7 women, will fight for the last spots.

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/2022_34_SEN_MS.html
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FZD, ML, LJK, WCQ

Round-robin, BO5 - LGY, Xiang Peng, Yuan Licen, Liu Dingshuo, Lin Shidong, Zhao Zihao
https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/2022_34_SEN_WS.html
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SYS, CM, WMY, WYD

Fan Siqi, Zhang Rui, Liu Weishan, Kuai Man, CXT, HZJ, QTY
Unlike the 6 men, the 7 women will be divided into 2 groups - domestic and overseas:
Fan Siqi, Zhang Rui, Liu Weishan, Kuai Man, and HZJ will take part in a round-robin, BO5, in which the winner will become the "candidate 5th player".
CXT and QTY will compete at the WTT Contender Muscat 2022, and if either of them wins the singles title, then that player will become the "5th player", or else the "candidate 5th player" will become the "5th player".

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Quote 中国乒协公布成都世乒赛选拔办法
世界排名前四直接入围,6男7女将争第五人资格

今天,中国乒协公布了成都世乒赛团体赛选拔办法。

选拔办法中明确,以2022年8月23日国际乒联公布的最新世界排名为标准,单打排名最高的男女各4名选手,直接获得成都世乒赛男女团体赛参赛资格。这样男队樊振东、马龙、梁靖崑、王楚钦;女队孙颖莎、陈梦、王曼昱、王艺迪获得成都世乒赛参赛资格。

此外,世界排名在前 50 名之内的中国运动员以及获得 2022 年中东系列赛、匈牙利夏�£系列赛单打冠军的中国运动员将获得竞争团体赛第五人的资格。根据规则男队的林高远、向鹏、袁励岑、刘丁硕、林诗栋、赵子豪6名男选手;女队的范思琦、张瑞、刘炜珊、蒯曼、陈幸同、何卓佳、钱天一7名女选手将为团体赛第五人资格展开争夺。

中国乒协秘书长,男队主教练秦志戬介绍说:“今年队伍先后参加了多个国际系列赛,基本上队员们都打了多站国际比赛,也和主要对手进行了直接对抗。在这个前提下,最新的世界排名基本上反应了我们队员的真实实力。所以我们教练组商讨后,全票通过决定依照世界排名,在选取前四名直接入围世乒赛阵容的基础上,拿出一个名额出来竞争。”

�£在成都封闭集训的中国乒乓球队将利用封闭训练的间隙,举办团体赛最后一个参赛名额的选拔赛。男女队的选拔赛均采用五局三胜的循环赛赛制。

与男队直接6选1产生团体赛第五人不同,女队结合队内实际情况,将最后一个名单的竞争,分为国内国外两条线进行。

已经在成都进行封闭集训的范思琦、张瑞、刘炜珊、蒯曼、何卓佳5人将参加选拔的循环赛,循环赛冠军将获得世乒赛团体赛候选参赛资格。而陈幸同、钱天一将通过参加阿曼常规挑战赛(9 月 4 日-9 月 10 日,在阿曼·马斯喀特)进行竞争。根据选拔办法,这两人中任何一人如获得女单冠军,则直接获得成都世乒赛女子团体参赛资格。 如果这两人都没有获得阿曼常规挑战赛女单冠军,则队内5人参加的选拔赛冠军获得成都世乒赛女子团体参赛资格。

“女队世界排名前四的领先优势比较大,选拔的重点在第五人上。”女队主教练李隼�£读选拔办法时表示,“此前因为身体和当地防疫政策原因陈幸同、钱天一退出了WTT突尼斯挑战赛未能和大部队在成都汇合,接下来还将参加系列比赛。考虑到她俩也都在我们第五人的竞争大名单内,所以女队教练组一致协商后决定将最后一个名额的竞争分为国内国外两条线来进行。”

据了�£,阿曼挑战赛除了陈幸同、钱天一领衔中国队参赛外,日本的伊藤美诚,中国台北的郑怡静、陈思羽,韩国的申�£�斌,以及欧洲多位主要对手都有报名参赛。“中国队大赛选拔的标准,一直都是关注综合实力,以及与主要对手的交手的胜率。”李隼补充�£释说,“所以阿曼挑战赛,如果陈幸同或者钱天一能够直接战胜主要对手,对她们来说也是不小的�£�练。”

在队内选拔赛结束后,中国乒协将在官网公布成都世乒赛团体赛男子5 名、女子 4 名获得资格运动员名单及 1 名女子候补资格运动员名单。9 月 11 日,最终选拔结果将在中国乒乓球协会官网进行公示。


Edited by zeio - 08/31/2022 at 6:42am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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The news is that many countries have not decided whether to participate for the tournament due to the china pandemic policies. Staying in a room for 7+ days is no fun.

Also air tickets to china are crazily expensive..


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With only 36 days left, WTT website still has not shown which country will play:

https://worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?selectedTab=Player%20List&eventId=2535
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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

The news is that many countries have not decided whether to participate for the tournament due to the china pandemic policies. Staying in a room for 7+ days is no fun.

Also air tickets to china are crazily expensive..


I know people going (long haul fligt) that is arriving around 3 or 4 days before the tournament (same as pre-covid tournament scheduling)



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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

With only 36 days left, WTT website still has not shown which country will play:



Since there is no individual world ranking points up for grabs, the value of the teams tournament is highly affected.

You know, everything ITTF/WTT is doing is so "ranking" point orientated nowadays.
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The WTTC awards so many points for team ranking. This edition will have bearing on WTTC 2024, which will decide the draw of the team event at Paris 2024. Teams that choose not to play are dumb.
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

The WTTC awards so many points for team ranking. This edition will have bearing on WTTC 2024, which will decide the draw of the team event at Paris 2024. Teams that choose not to play are dumb.


So they will all pitch for WTTC 2024 then.
anyways, each country has they own plans.

ITTF/WTT, 1 month to go and no players list, what in the world hey?
Some places I know, team was only confirmed this week, and they just started visa application. Very very late.

Btw. you talking about seeding, at Paris.
that is not qualification for Paris.
A lot will happen in 2 years.

Maybe they need more teams world tours now, as there is now a teams working ranking that is not related to individuals....


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They will have to start from the bottom. Ever wonder why there is the word "Finals" attached at the end now?
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

They will have to start from the bottom. Ever wonder why there is the word "Finals" attached at the end now?


Some players don't care to be honest.

I was called upon to verify this with my friends in the top circles on points.
And some players are opting to rest.

I understand the reasoning for change, like Feng keeps getting more points than say Chinese players.
But if you take individual out, it leaves very little left for the individual, other than national pride or North Korean yes sir style approach



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Oh, you mean the small potatoes.
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Oh, you mean the small potatoes.


haha, you calling them small
you a big shot guy hey. Tell me, who are you again?
You ready to go public?


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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

The news is that many countries have not decided whether to participate for the tournament due to the china pandemic policies. Staying in a room for 7+ days is no fun.

Also air tickets to china are crazily expensive..

Hi,

Recently I was asked to accompany an aspiring U.S. boy to China as his personal coach for some intense training opportunities.  Though it would have been a wonderful trip, I declined due to the Chinese Covid protocols being more than a bit too much both coming and going.  

From a Covid perspective, (embracing the Covid view that I have,) China must be the worst country in the world to travel to.

Thanks.
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Teams with members announced that I'm aware of. Haven't checked the others.
China - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92179&PID=1130718&title=wttc-finals-2022-chengdu-9-3010-9#1130718
FZD/ML/LJK/WCQ/TBD
SYS/CM/WMY/WYD/TBD

Japan - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1124892&title=2022-zennoh-cup-top32-9-34#1124892
Togami/Miwa's brother/Oikawa/Yokotani/Niwa
Ito/Hayata/Nagasaki/Kihara/Sato

South Korea - https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91652&PID=1126089&title=ktta-2022-asian-games-cum-wttc-qualifier-4-1824#1126089
JWJ, CDS, AJH, Hwang Minha, CSM
JJH, Kim Nayeong, Lee Zion, Yoon Hyobin, Kim Hayeong

Canada - https://ttcanada.ca/self-funded-team-to-2022-chendu-wtttc/
https://ttcanada.ca/selection-for-2022-world-team-championships/
Eugene Wang/Jeremy Hazin/Edward Ly/HongTao Chen/Max J.L. Ji/Siméon Martin/Mattew Lehmann, Alternates 1: Zexuan Wang 2: Tommy Xu
Mo Zhang/Ivy Gui Hua Liao/Ching Nam Fu/May Tong/Sophie Gauthier/Jessie Xu/ Katherine Morin/Crystal Liu/Fiona Jiayi Nie, Alternates 1: Judy Zhong 2: Daisy Zhang

Edward Ly, Aaron Zexuan Wang, David Xu
Crystal Liu, Ivy Liao, Fiona Jiayi Nie, May Tong Hui (player/coach)

Germany is more concerned with bargaining with ITTF than announcing their team members - https://www.sport1.de/news/tischtennis/2022/08/wm-anreise-von-boll-und-co-nach-china-ungeklart

Edited by zeio - 09/07/2022 at 1:53pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Japan select Akira Yokoya (not sure if the translation is correct) WR 415 in the men team. Who is he? Never heard of him before. 
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Originally posted by balldance balldance wrote:

Japan select Akira Yokoya (not sure if the translation is correct) WR 415 in the men team. Who is he? Never heard of him before. 

I believe he generally goes by Yokotani Jo in Roman. He's part of the younger up and coming crop of Japanese players - twenty years old. I'm sure someone here with more insight can give you more information about him.
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Chinese Taipei - https://www.cttta.org.tw/files/News/20221205460.jpg
111年度中華桌球國手排名賽
暨參加2022年世界團體桌球桌球錦標賽
暨參加2022年亞洲運動會中華�£表隊選拔賽 成績表
LYJ/CCY/Liao Cheng-Ting/Huang Yan-Cheng/Peng Wang-Wei
CIC/CSY/Liu Hsing-Yin/Li Yu-Jhun/Huang Yi-Hua

Sweden -
https://www.svenskbordtennis.com/Nyheter/Pingisnytt/HerrarnastrupptillBordtennis-VMiKina/
https://www.svenskbordtennis.com/Nyheter/Pingisnytt/DamernasVM-trupp/
https://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/svenska-bordtennisfoerbundet/pressreleases/herrarnas-trupp-till-bordtennis-vm-3200760
https://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/svenska-bordtennisfoerbundet/pressreleases/damernas-vm-trupp-3198946
Moregard/Kalsson/Kallberg/Falck/Persson
Bergstrom/Kallberg/Filippa Bergand/Matilda Hansson, Reserve: Rebecca Muskantor

India - http://ttfi.org/news/show/1119
G Sathiyan, Sanil Shetty, Harmeet Desai, Manush Shah and Manav Thakkar
Manika Batra, Sreeja Akula, Reeth Rishya, Diya Chitale and Swastika Ghosh

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Teams with members announced that I'm aware of. Haven't checked the others.
China - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92179&PID=1130718&title=wttc-finals-2022-chengdu-9-3010-9#1130718
FZD/ML/LJK/WCQ/TBD
SYS/CM/WMY/WYD/TBD

Japan - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91479&PID=1124892&title=2022-zennoh-cup-top32-9-34#1124892
Togami/Miwa's brother/Oikawa/Yokotani/Niwa
Ito/Hayata/Nagasaki/Kihara/Sato

South Korea - https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91652&PID=1126089&title=ktta-2022-asian-games-cum-wttc-qualifier-4-1824#1126089
JWJ, CDS, AJH, Hwang Minha, CSM
JJH, Kim Nayeong, Lee Zion, Yoon Hyobin, Kim Hayeong

Canada - https://ttcanada.ca/selection-for-2022-world-team-championships/
Eugene Wang/Jeremy Hazin/Edward Ly/HongTao Chen/Max J.L. Ji/Siméon Martin/Mattew Lehmann, Alternates 1: Zexuan Wang 2: Tommy Xu
Mo Zhang/Ivy Gui Hua Liao/Ching Nam Fu/May Tong/Sophie Gauthier/Jessie Xu/ Katherine Morin/Crystal Liu/Fiona Jiayi Nie, Alternates 1: Judy Zhong 2: Daisy Zhang

Germany is more concerned with bargaining with ITTF than announcing their team members - https://www.sport1.de/news/tischtennis/2022/08/wm-anreise-von-boll-und-co-nach-china-ungeklart


Edited by zeio - 09/05/2022 at 10:00am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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https://www.francsjeux.com/breves/une-bulle-sanitaire-pour-les-mondiaux-2022
Quote Sans surprise, les Chinois ont pris la décision d’envelopper la compétition dans une bulle sanitaire comparable à celle mise en place aux Jeux d’hiver de Pékin 2022. Elle est censée accueillir un millier de personnes. Des vols spéciaux ont été affrétés. A leur arrivée, les accrédités venus de l’étranger seront exemptés de quarantaine. La compétition sera organisée au nouveau centre sportif high-tech de Chengdu, construit l’an passé. Les Mondiaux de tennis de table 2022 seront les sixièmes de l’histoire à se dérouler en Chine, mais les premiers dans la ville de Chengdu.

Unsurprisingly, the Chinese have taken the decision to wrap the competition in a health bubble comparable to that set up at the Beijing 2022 Winter Games. It is supposed to accommodate a thousand people. Special flights have been chartered. On their arrival, accredited persons from abroad will be exempt from quarantine. The competition will be held at the new high-tech sports center in Chengdu, built last year. The 2022 Table Tennis Worlds will be the sixth in history to take place in China, but the first in the city of Chengdu.
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

https://www.francsjeux.com/breves/une-bulle-sanitaire-pour-les-mondiaux-2022
Quote Sans surprise, les Chinois ont pris la décision d’envelopper la compétition dans une bulle sanitaire comparable à celle mise en place aux Jeux d’hiver de Pékin 2022. Elle est censée accueillir un millier de personnes. Des vols spéciaux ont été affrétés. A leur arrivée, les accrédités venus de l’étranger seront exemptés de quarantaine. La compétition sera organisée au nouveau centre sportif high-tech de Chengdu, construit l’an passé. Les Mondiaux de tennis de table 2022 seront les sixièmes de l’histoire à se dérouler en Chine, mais les premiers dans la ville de Chengdu.

Unsurprisingly, the Chinese have taken the decision to wrap the competition in a health bubble comparable to that set up at the Beijing 2022 Winter Games. It is supposed to accommodate a thousand people. Special flights have been chartered. On their arrival, accredited persons from abroad will be exempt from quarantine. The competition will be held at the new high-tech sports center in Chengdu, built last year. The 2022 Table Tennis Worlds will be the sixth in history to take place in China, but the first in the city of Chengdu.


Yeah, Chengdu is officially in lockdown
20 million people in they own bubble at home.
Thanks to 157 new cases yesterday

I wonder what will happen when one of the visiting teams show up as positive....




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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Oh, you mean the small potatoes.


do we have a list of zeio's small potatoes not going yet?
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It's starting to smell like cancellation.....
Would be better if organized in Europe (Germany, Germany or....Germany for instance)


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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

https://www.francsjeux.com/breves/une-bulle-sanitaire-pour-les-mondiaux-2022
Quote Sans surprise, les Chinois ont pris la décision d’envelopper la compétition dans une bulle sanitaire comparable à celle mise en place aux Jeux d’hiver de Pékin 2022. Elle est censée accueillir un millier de personnes. Des vols spéciaux ont été affrétés. A leur arrivée, les accrédités venus de l’étranger seront exemptés de quarantaine. La compétition sera organisée au nouveau centre sportif high-tech de Chengdu, construit l’an passé. Les Mondiaux de tennis de table 2022 seront les sixièmes de l’histoire à se dérouler en Chine, mais les premiers dans la ville de Chengdu.

Unsurprisingly, the Chinese have taken the decision to wrap the competition in a health bubble comparable to that set up at the Beijing 2022 Winter Games. It is supposed to accommodate a thousand people. Special flights have been chartered. On their arrival, accredited persons from abroad will be exempt from quarantine. The competition will be held at the new high-tech sports center in Chengdu, built last year. The 2022 Table Tennis Worlds will be the sixth in history to take place in China, but the first in the city of Chengdu.


Yeah, Chengdu is officially in lockdown
20 million people in they own bubble at home.
Thanks to 157 new cases yesterday

I wonder what will happen when one of the visiting teams show up as positive....
My sympathies are with the local population.  These lockdowns that pop up from city to city due to zero Covid policy are insane.  I can't imagine the people being too happy about being fenced into their own homes/apartments/neighborhoods.  Then, there's the daily testing having to stand in line for hours during a heatwave with 40C (104F) temperatures not to mention the economic disaster that it is.

Hopefully, the visiting players/staff can get in and get out ASAP if the event proceeds.
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I do not understand why things are so lax in the USA where we can go by unprotected in buses (I still wear a mask anywhere I go like a few people because I am a bit paranoid about it) and why China is so strict. It's not like the virus is more virulent there, right? why would a strict "Wear your mask" policy not work for them?
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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

I do not understand why things are so lax in the USA where we can go by unprotected in buses (I still wear a mask anywhere I go like a few people because I am a bit paranoid about it) and why China is so strict. It's not like the virus is more virulent there, right? why would a strict "Wear your mask" policy not work for them?


you not the only one, lots of Asian still wear masks.
Especially at WTT events.
I think if you want to be extra careful, then good. It is like the habit of washing your hands first before eating. I know many adults who don't wash their hands, since they think germs won't kill them.

Why China so strict... I guess they at a stage where, they can't loose and agree to the peoples demand. This will be seen as a weakness.
They can't allow or confirm the fact of "gov making the wrong decision" before. They still punting that Covid Zero is the right thing to do and saying how the west or even Taiwan is bound to have millions of death for relaxed protocols.

So, i'm not sure for how many years will they continue for zero policy.
but they should not be hosting any international sport events until they are ready to allow free flow of everything.

I agree, should of have it in Germany. Euro champs was so nice having crowds!

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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

My sympathies are with the local population.  These lockdowns that pop up from city to city due to zero Covid policy are insane.  I can't imagine the people being too happy about being fenced into their own homes/apartments/neighborhoods.  Then, there's the daily testing having to stand in line for hours during a heatwave with 40C (104F) temperatures not to mention the economic disaster that it is.

Hopefully, the visiting players/staff can get in and get out ASAP if the event proceeds.

Chengdu will have 4 days of testing now...
The last time they said 4 days, it ended up what. like 2 months?

The people are not happy, or atleast the ones that I know are not happy, who went through the last lockdown few month ago.
News says there is food parcels for all. I know people that didn't get any - because they are not "locals", so not on the distribution list. This is where money is important.

I think if you have a confirmed end date, you could mentally get ready for it. But the no end date extension last time, really hurt a lot of people

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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

I do not understand why things are so lax in the USA where we can go by unprotected in buses (I still wear a mask anywhere I go like a few people because I am a bit paranoid about it) and why China is so strict. It's not like the virus is more virulent there, right? why would a strict "Wear your mask" policy not work for them?


you not the only one, lots of Asian still wear masks.
Especially at WTT events.
I think if you want to be extra careful, then good. It is like the habit of washing your hands first before eating. I know many adults who don't wash their hands, since they think germs won't kill them.

Why China so strict... I guess they at a stage where, they can't loose and agree to the peoples demand. This will be seen as a weakness.
They can't allow or confirm the fact of "gov making the wrong decision" before. They still punting that Covid Zero is the right thing to do and saying how the west or even Taiwan is bound to have millions of death for relaxed protocols.

So, i'm not sure for how many years will they continue for zero policy.
but they should not be hosting any international sport events until they are ready to allow free flow of everything.

I agree, should of have it in Germany. Euro champs was so nice having crowds!


because the millions of deaths happened indeed.... the global count is 6+ million and counting....


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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

because the millions of deaths happened indeed.... the global count is 6+ million and counting....


No, you misunderstood.
 
Taiwan lifted covid protocols slightly few months ago and decided to not follow covid zero.
So China said Taiwan will have millions of death for making such stupid move, a move that is based on western ways of doing things.

The millions of death you have is total accumulated world wide death right?
Chinese gov view is Taiwan's 23 million people will have few million deaths for not following covid zero, and this is now maybe 6 months+ now.
Year to date is 9000 deaths sadly.... But China's scientist says it will be in the millions for Taiwan.

So if they use the same calculation from the Chinese experts for China, we talking about that the CCP is forecasting hundreds of millions of death if they give up covid zero.....
Of course we not sure how many have died of hunger or suicides...

It will take someone very brave in China to step up and say, Covid Zero cannot be a long term plan.
or if they want to do it, is to forfeit rights to hosting international events.
Less then 4 weeks to go for an already postponed tournament.


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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

I do not understand why things are so lax in the USA where we can go by unprotected in buses (I still wear a mask anywhere I go like a few people because I am a bit paranoid about it) and why China is so strict. It's not like the virus is more virulent there, right? why would a strict "Wear your mask" policy not work for them?

The Chinese healthcare system is even more underequipped than the USA (which is already quite bad) imo... they wouldn't be able to handle the Covid spike without massive deaths and panics, which is why they're forced into this Covid 0 policy of relying on enforced social distancing. It is after all still a developing country with a massive population...

That said, even in Australia it's like 50 ppl dying every single day - it's just not reported in the news media nor does anyone care about it... There are real human costs to every policy decision.


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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

That said, even in Australia it's like 50 ppl dying every single day - it's just not reported in the news media nor does anyone care about it... There are real human costs to every policy decision.



This.  But what is the Australia base death rate if you think this number is correct?


The world's governments for some reason seems to have lost the ability to make principled decisions and have this idea that they can solve problems that are fundamental to human nature.
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No one from Canada will/should go as ttcanada stated, it will be "self-funded" as with most events players have to attend to represent Canada.

Canada is following the USA removing all restrictions against covid-19, China will take notice of this and it does not fare well for players trying to enter China.

Also for the Canadian Teams - controversy on selections as "punishment" Clown


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