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Topic: The Harmony 2010 China Open...
Posted By: takaaki
Subject: The Harmony 2010 China Open...
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 1:59pm
(For videos, see the full list in the next post - JimT)
starts this wednesday. on both the men's and women's sides, most of the top-20 will be there, except for ma long, who's pulled out due to injury.
cuz he's out, wang hao has been moved up to the top seed and timo to the 2nd seed.
here's the men's seed list:
1 |
WANG Hao CHN |
M |
2 |
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07/31/2010 4:09:48 AM |
2 |
BOLL Timo GER |
M |
3 |
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07/21/2010 2:51:09 AM |
3 |
MA Lin CHN |
M |
4 |
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08/15/2010 1:40:37 AM |
4 |
ZHANG Jike CHN |
M |
5 |
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07/21/2010 2:51:35 AM |
5 |
WANG Liqin CHN |
M |
6 |
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07/21/2010 2:51:46 AM |
6 |
XU Xin CHN |
M |
8 |
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08/15/2010 1:41:41 AM |
7 |
MIZUTANI Jun JPN |
M |
9 |
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07/21/2010 2:52:00 AM |
8 |
JOO Se Hyuk KOR |
M |
11 |
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07/28/2010 6:18:49 AM |
9 |
OVTCHAROV Dimitrij GER |
M |
12 |
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08/14/2010 9:47:13 PM |
10 |
CHEN Qi CHN |
M |
13 |
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07/31/2010 4:10:24 AM |
11 |
OH Sang Eun KOR |
M |
15 |
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07/21/2010 2:52:50 AM |
12 |
CHUANG Chih-Yuan TPE |
M |
16 |
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07/21/2010 2:53:07 AM |
13 |
TANG Peng HKG |
M |
17 |
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07/21/2010 2:53:22 AM |
14 |
RYU Seung Min KOR |
M |
18 |
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07/31/2010 4:11:05 AM |
15 |
SUSS Christian GER |
M |
19 |
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07/21/2010 2:53:48 AM |
16 |
CHEN Weixing AUT |
M |
20 |
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07/21/2010 2:53:56 AM |
17 |
YOSHIDA Kaii JPN |
M |
21 |
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07/21/2010 2:54:09 AM |
18 |
GAO Ning SIN |
M |
22 |
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07/31/2010 4:09:32 AM |
19 |
KISHIKAWA Seiya JPN |
M |
28 |
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07/31/2010 4:10:03 AM |
20 |
LEE Jung Woo KOR |
M |
31 |
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07/21/2010 2:55:21 AM |
21 |
STEGER Bastian GER |
M |
32 |
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07/21/2010 2:55:11 AM |
22 |
YOON Jae Young KOR |
M |
34 |
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07/28/2010 6:17:39 AM |
23 |
GERELL Par SWE |
M |
42 |
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08/15/2010 3:47:30 AM |
24 |
KIM Jung Hoon KOR |
M |
43 |
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07/31/2010 4:10:38 AM |
25 |
BAUM Patrick GER |
M |
44 |
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07/31/2010 4:10:52 AM |
26 |
SEO Hyun Deok KOR |
M |
45 |
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07/21/2010 3:06:40 AM |
27 |
JIANG Tianyi HKG |
M |
48 |
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08/01/2010 5:29:25 PM |
28 |
KAN Yo JPN |
M |
50 |
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08/09/2010 3:29:37 AM |
29 |
MATSUDAIRA Kenta JPN |
M |
52 |
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08/12/2010 3:26:46 AM |
30 |
SKACHKOV Kirill RUS |
M |
53 |
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08/12/2010 8:30:48 AM |
31 |
KUZMIN Fedor RUS |
M |
56 |
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08/15/2010 11:06:41 AM |
32 |
CHO Eon Rae KOR |
M |
59 |
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08/16/2010 1:00:30 AM |
and the women's seed list:
1 |
LIU Shiwen CHN |
W |
1 |
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07/21/2010 2:57:54 AM |
2 |
FENG Tianwei SIN |
W |
2 |
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07/31/2010 4:12:01 AM |
3 |
GUO Yan CHN |
W |
3 |
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07/31/2010 4:12:36 AM |
4 |
DING Ning CHN |
W |
4 |
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07/31/2010 4:11:45 AM |
5 |
KIM Kyung Ah KOR |
W |
5 |
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07/31/2010 4:11:22 AM |
6 |
GUO Yue CHN |
W |
6 |
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07/31/2010 4:12:11 AM |
7 |
JIANG Huajun HKG |
W |
7 |
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07/31/2010 4:11:33 AM |
8 |
LI Xiaoxia CHN |
W |
7 |
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07/21/2010 2:59:23 AM |
9 |
WANG Yuegu SIN |
W |
9 |
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07/21/2010 2:59:47 AM |
10 |
FUKUHARA Ai JPN |
W |
10 |
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07/31/2010 4:12:26 AM |
11 |
WU Jiaduo GER |
W |
11 |
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07/21/2010 2:59:57 AM |
12 |
HIRANO Sayaka JPN |
W |
13 |
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07/21/2010 3:00:24 AM |
13 |
PARK Mi Young KOR |
W |
15 |
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07/21/2010 3:00:37 AM |
14 |
YU Mengyu SIN |
W |
16 |
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07/21/2010 3:00:48 AM |
15 |
SUN Beibei SIN |
W |
17 |
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07/21/2010 3:00:58 AM |
16 |
TIE Yana HKG |
W |
19 |
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07/21/2010 3:01:12 AM |
17 |
HUANG Yi-Hua TPE |
W |
20 |
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07/21/2010 3:01:25 AM |
18 |
WU Yang CHN |
W |
26 |
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07/21/2010 3:02:04 AM |
19 |
SEOK Ha Jung KOR |
W |
28 |
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07/21/2010 3:02:14 AM |
20 |
LI Jiawei SIN |
W |
29 |
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07/21/2010 3:02:29 AM |
21 |
ISHIKAWA Kasumi JPN |
W |
34 |
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07/21/2010 3:02:51 AM |
22 |
LIN Ling HKG |
W |
35 |
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07/21/2010 3:02:40 AM |
23 |
HU Melek TUR |
W |
37 |
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07/21/2010 3:08:32 AM |
24 |
SILBEREISEN Kristin GER |
W |
40 |
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07/21/2010 3:03:19 AM |
25 |
LEE Eun Hee KOR |
W |
42 |
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07/28/2010 6:13:56 AM |
26 |
ISHIGAKI Yuka JPN |
W |
43 |
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07/21/2010 3:08:43 AM |
27 |
LAU Sui Fei HKG |
W |
45 |
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07/21/2010 3:04:08 AM |
28 |
LI Xue ^ FRA |
W |
48 |
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07/21/2010 3:03:57 AM |
29 |
CHENG I-Ching TPE |
W |
50 |
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07/31/2010 4:12:49 AM |
30 |
KIM Jong PRK |
W |
51 |
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08/04/2010 7:19:33 AM |
31 |
SHEN Yanfei ESP |
W |
53 |
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08/15/2010 11:07:46 AM |
32 |
ZHANG Rui HKG |
W |
55 |
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08/15/2010 11:49:20 PM |
takaaki comment from 2nd post: looking at that list, if the ittf does a
1-3-5-7/2-4-6-8 draw then boll would have to go thru joo again and
possibly 3 chinese (barring any upsets) to get to the final. good
luck!!
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 2:03pm
Edited by JimT (with takaaki's permission)
Full clips
First round matches (from itTV)
Darius Knight vs
Timo Boll http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QWW184O1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QWW184O1
Jun
Mizutani vs Andrew Baggaley http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J11RD3LZ - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J11RD3LZ
Ma
Lin vs Ghosh Soumyajit http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2OZYRZAK - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2OZYRZAK
Wang
Hao vs Cai Xiaoli http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GOAI5FI2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GOAI5FI2
CHUANG Chih-Yuan_WU Chih-Chi(TPE) vs
Shibaev_Vlasov(RUS) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GVY1TC2E - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GVY1TC2E
Seok Ha Jung_Kang Mi Soon (KOR) vs
Kumaresan_Patkar (IND) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O0JGUQLI - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O0JGUQLI
Hu Melek (TUR) vs HSIUNG Nai-I (TPE) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=887FV104 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=887FV104
Hu Melek (TUR) vs Partyka Natalia (POL) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KFTZDSFX - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KFTZDSFX
Ma Lin_Xu Xin (CHN) vs Kou
Lei_Zhmudenko Yaroslav (UKR) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0HSYE8LG - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0HSYE8LG
Feng Tianwei (SIN) vs Zheng Jiaqi (USA) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RZVV637B - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RZVV637B
Guo Yan (CHN) vs SIM Kain Xin (SIN) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2TTTIKRS - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2TTTIKRS
Jiang Huajun (HKG) vs PARK Young Sook (KOR) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XNDRODXI - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XNDRODXI
Liu Shiwen (CHN) vs LEE I-Chen (TPE) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BETTGYYO - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BETTGYYO Round of 64:
Kim Chol Jin (PRK) - Kaii Yoshida (JPN) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JN54U3G3 - - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JN54U3G3
Wu Chih-Chi (TPE) - Seo Hyun Deok (KOR) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SK6QRN6Y - - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SK6QRN6Y
Janos Jakab (HUN) - Bastian Steger (GER)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UL6S3TPU - - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UL6S3TPU
Wang Hao vs Yoon Jae Young
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SCDPUMC2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SCDPUMC2 Round of 32:
Kenta Matsudaira (JPN) - Chuang Chih-Yuan (TPE)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q52ZOOG8 - - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q52ZOOG8 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EAMY8R0U - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EAMY8R0U
Paul Drinkhall (ENG) - Chen Qi (CHN)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6YAZOP8Z - - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6YAZOP8Z Ma Lin vs Wu Chih-Chi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6D7PKZHS - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6D7PKZHS
Wang Hao vs Chuang Chih-Yuan http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X9HTT7DS - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X9HTT7DS
Joo Se Hyuk vs Tang Peng http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8YRSL952 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8YRSL952
Wang Liqin vs Lee Jung Woo http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PGGA5MLQ - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PGGA5MLQ
Round of 16
Ma Lin - Chen Qi http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NI2MZX80 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NI2MZX80
Tang Peng (HKG) - Joo Se Hyuk (KOR)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R2LNZZU0 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R2LNZZU0 Tang Peng, Jiang Tianyi vs Lebesson Emmanuel, Salifou Abdel-Kader
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GZGE6DDK - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GZGE6DDK QF
Xu Xin vs Timo Boll
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HU2SJUST - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HU2SJUST
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4RCJ0MX3 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4RCJ0MX3
Ma Lin vs Joo Se Hyuk
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EOZSMTGY - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EOZSMTGY Li Xiaoxia vs Liu Shiwen
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J1ZJ0OUU - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J1ZJ0OUU Shen Yanfei vs Feng Tianwei http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WWDNLWL6 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WWDNLWL6
Zhang Jike vs Gao Ning http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OSESF7XZ - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OSESF7XZ
Chen Qi, Wang Liqin vs Ryu Seung Min, Seo Hyun Deok http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8DOF2LJR - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8DOF2LJR
SF
Ma Lin vs Xu Xin http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CMFFEH8L - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CMFFEH8L http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5AO4Z9PZ - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5AO4Z9PZ
Zhang
Jike vs Wang Liqin http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9WL30A0R - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9WL30A0R
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QOL2AWUO - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QOL2AWUO (ill-edited but still good!)
Kim Kyung Ah vs Shen Yanfei http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WYTZRRT4 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WYTZRRT4
Li
Xiaoxia vs Ding Ning http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1U0K336U - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1U0K336U
Liu Shiwen, Ding Ning vs Sun Bei Bei, Shen Yanfei
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AZ9JZVTH - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AZ9JZVTH
Finals
Li Xiaoxia vs Kim Kyung Ah http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SK4F96FM - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SK4F96FM
Zhang Jike vs Ma Lin http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1KMNKEWG - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1KMNKEWG http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZZ9UBA7K - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZZ9UBA7K
MD-F Ma Lin Xu Xin vs Wang Liqin Chen Qi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=55LOMEU2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=55LOMEU2
YouTube
Timo Boll vs Darius Knight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFdYpUbo_wo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFdYpUbo_wo
Paul Drinkhall vs Chen Qi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aWNcCOjLxU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aWNcCOjLxU Kenta Matsudaira - Chuang Chih-Yuan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m131VsQfoFs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m131VsQfoFs
Wang Liqin vs Lee Jung Woo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVm7Ky_DAeE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVm7Ky_DAeE
Joo Se Hyuk vs Tang Peng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG9uJzkOfJU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG9uJzkOfJU
Ma Lin - Chen Qi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6YecxYEcOM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6YecxYEcOM
Ma
Lin - Joo Se Hyuk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Mo8konUOI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Mo8koNUOI
Chen Qi, Wang Liqin - Ryu Seung Min, Seo Hyun Deok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1FIqq34KPM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1FIqq34KPM Zhang Jike vs Gao Ning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-5DuddUch0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-5DuddUch0
Xu
Xin - Timo Boll http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuSnpWSFcRw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuSnpWSFcRw
Wang Hao - Wang Liqin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Sq7F_4bNY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Sq7F_4bNY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiRV-yFomyI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiRV-yFomyI
Ma Lin - Xu Xin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtXflDEgT18 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtXflDEgT18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djmayL1yi1M - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djmayL1yi1M
Zhang
Jike - Wang Liqin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kk4bWGd9n8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kk4bWGd9n8
Ma Lin - Zhang Jike http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqbSPW-thX0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqbSPW-thX0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3vXeR3EW1o - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3vXeR3EW1o
Li Xiaoxia - Kim Kyung Ah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7zs30zvuhA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7zs30zvuhA
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Posted By: Sallom89
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 2:46pm
Wang Hao, Wins! finish THEM!
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Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 3:03pm
takaaki wrote:
looking at that list, if the ittf does a 1-3-5-7/2-4-6-8 draw then boll would have to go thru joo again and possibly 3 chinese (barring any upsets) to get to the final. good luck!!
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The draw doesn't work like that. The only thing certain is that Boll won't have to play Wang Hao until the final.
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 3:30pm
no, it's usually some sort of variation of that. for example, i said above 1-3-5-7/2-4-6-8, but at the korean open this past weekend, it was 1-3-5/2-4-6 and at the moroccan open, it was 1-3-7-(8)/2-4-(5)-6
usually, (not always) one side of the draw is "odd" and the other "even." it's not as random as you may think.
now, 1-3/2-4 is absolute--they always do it that way except at the world cup, and maybe the olympics. but after that, it's "random," but, even so, they usually put more "odd" seeds on one side and "even" seeds on the other.
so, this week, wang hao will be at the "top" of the draw and timo at the bottom. and at the bottom of wang's half will be ma lin and at the top of timo's half will be zhang jike.
after that, it may be random. if not, then wang liqin will be at the bottom wang hao's "quarter" and xu xin will be at the top of timo's "quarter."
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Posted By: sahiggs100
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 3:46pm
I have to say that I'd really like to see Timo Boll win but anything can happen. It will be a good match if Timo plays Wang Hao at the end. Who's everyone cheering for? Is there anywhere we can watch this live?
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 3:54pm
oh, yes, i forgot to mention that the ittf says they will stream it on itTV, but they haven't announced their broadcast schedule yet.
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Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 5:18pm
will it be on cctv5 or anything like that bro???
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Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 5:29pm
Ma long is out, so I will root for Wang Liqin.
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Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 5:34pm
takaaki wrote:
now, 1-3/2-4 is absolute--they always do it that way except at the world cup, and maybe the olympics.
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Sorry, but just look at the Korean Open semis: men's was 1-3/2-4 but women's was 1-4/2-3. Only 1/2 is absolute, the rest goes by the luck of the draw.
(And if one were to pick "absolutes" as some sports/tournaments do, 1-4/2-3 makes more sense because it's more balanced.)
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Posted By: VanTC
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 5:37pm
kenneyy88 wrote:
Ma long is out, so I will root for Wang Liqin. |
So do I
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Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 6:23pm
Expecting an all chinese semi finals hehehe
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Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 6:51pm
i want chen qi to make some kind of upset...but WLQ all the way!
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 7:10pm
amateur wrote:
takaaki wrote:
now, 1-3/2-4 is absolute--they always do it that way except at the world cup, and maybe the olympics.
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Sorry, but just look at the Korean Open semis: men's was 1-3/2-4 but women's was 1-4/2-3. Only 1/2 is absolute, the rest goes by the luck of the draw.
(And if one were to pick "absolutes" as some sports/tournaments do, 1-4/2-3 makes more sense because it's more balanced.)
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uh, i was only talking about the men--i honestly don't pay much attention to women's draws.
anyhow, at the morocco open they also did 1-4/2-3 with the women. so perhaps that's the way they generally do it with them.
also, occasionally, in the past, i have seen a 1-4/2-3 with the men, but i noticed that it happened in a "back-to-back situation" where you have pro tour events on consecutive weeks and more or less the same top seeds.
as for 1-4/2-3 being more "balanced," how is that? the top seed gets an opponent 3 spots below them, whereas the 2nd seed gets the next seed. so, theoretically, the top seed has the easier match.
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Posted By: ttcyfi
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 9:07pm
Zhang Jike all the way!! shakehanders 4 life!
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Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 9:10pm
takaaki wrote:
uh, i was only talking about the men--i honestly don't pay much attention to women's draws.
anyhow, at the morocco open they also did 1-4/2-3 with the women. so perhaps that's the way they generally do it with them.
also, occasionally, in the past, i have seen a 1-4/2-3 with the men, but i noticed that it happened in a "back-to-back situation" where you have pro tour events on consecutive weeks and more or less the same top seeds.
as for 1-4/2-3 being more "balanced," how is that? the top seed gets an opponent 3 spots below them, whereas the 2nd seed gets the next seed. so, theoretically, the top seed has the easier match.
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Are you serious?? You mean ITTF has different rules for men and women when they do the draw? Or that they change the draw system from one week to the next, or just on a whim?
As for more balanced: 1+4=5; 2+3=5 therefore the two halves are balanced in terms of the strength of the two players (as opposed to 1+3=4 and 2+4=6).
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Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 9:18pm
Here's the official wording for draws at ITTF international competitions (men and women...):
3.06.02.03 |
The
entry ranked 1 shall be placed at the top of the first half of the draw
and the entry ranked 2 at the bottom of the second half, but all other
seeded entries shall be drawn among specified places in the draw, as
follows: |
3.06.02.03.01 |
the entries ranked 3 and 4 shall be drawn between the bottom of the first half of the draw and the top of the second half; |
3.06.02.03.02 |
the
entries ranked 5-8 shall be drawn among the bottom places of the
odd-numbered quarters of the draw and the top places of the
even-numbered quarters; |
3.06.02.03.03 |
the
entries ranked 9-16 shall be drawn among the bottom places of the
odd-numbered eighths of the draw and the top places of the
even-numbered eighths; |
3.06.02.03.04 |
the
entries ranked 17-32 shall be drawn among the bottom places of the
odd-numbered sixteenths of the draw and the top places of the
even-numbered sixteenths. | http://www.ittf.com/ittf_handbook/ittf_hb.html - http://www.ittf.com/ittf_handbook/ittf_hb.html
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Posted By: ma
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 9:29pm
I'm rooting for the korean players
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 9:56pm
amateur wrote:
takaaki wrote:
uh, i was only talking about the men--i honestly don't pay much attention to women's draws.
anyhow, at the morocco open they also did 1-4/2-3 with the women. so perhaps that's the way they generally do it with them.
also, occasionally, in the past, i have seen a 1-4/2-3 with the men, but i noticed that it happened in a "back-to-back situation" where you have pro tour events on consecutive weeks and more or less the same top seeds.
as for 1-4/2-3 being more "balanced," how is that? the top seed gets an opponent 3 spots below them, whereas the 2nd seed gets the next seed. so, theoretically, the top seed has the easier match.
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Are you serious?? You mean ITTF has different rules for men and women when they do the draw? Or that they change the draw system from one week to the next, or just on a whim?
As for more balanced: 1+4=5; 2+3=5 therefore the two halves are balanced in terms of the strength of the two players (as opposed to 1+3=4 and 2+4=6).
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...just on a whim... that, my friend, is, in essence, what you have been arguing the whole time.
i, on the other hand, have been arguing that it is not random, and your quoting of the rule makes my point clearly. do not try to turn around what i and you have been saying.
the examples of the korean open and the morocco open that i provided above are NOT my opinions, they are FACTS. if you don't believe me, the draws are still available, so you can go and see it yourself.
anyhow, your quoting of the rule shows that they have some wriggle-room to swiitch the odd and even seeds, which, as i said above, they occasionally do. anyhow, the draw will probably be up tomorrow, so we'll see how they do it this time...
balanced... you mean they are balanced MATHEMATICALLY, but not (necessarily) as to seeding.
in the 1-4/2-3 scenario, the top seed has (theoretically) an easier match than the 2nd seed. now, if it's done 1-3/2-4, then that is actually balanced, cuz both the 1st and 2nd seed will play an opponent 2 spots below them.
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 10:03pm
ma wrote:
I'm rooting for the korean players |
well, one of my favorite players is oh sang eun, so i guess i'm rooting for a korean player, too.
but my favorite of all is the WANG LIQIN, so he's the one i really want to see win!!
WANG LIQIN JIA YO!!
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Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 10:19pm
I give up... you're just clueless, there's no point arguing with someone like that.
Bottom line is that #3 and #4 seeds are drawn at random into either half - as opposed to placed deliberately as you thought. Etc. etc. etc.
Edit: the problem seems to be that you don't understand the meaning of the word "draw" - see below. A draw is by definition random, it's a lottery (it just follows certain constraints and parameters, which are formulated in the rules quoted above). ITTF does not place #3 or #4 deliberately near #1 or #2, nor do they have "wiggle-room" to do it one way or the other - it's decided by lot, by chance.
Draw: an act of selecting names randomly, typically by extracting them from a bag or other container, to match competitors in a game or tournament
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 10:30pm
lild100 wrote:
will it be on cctv5 or anything like that bro??? |
according to the cctv5 schedule at tvunetworks.com, they're gonna wait until the semis on sunday around 2 pm beijing time. unfortunately, they only have 1 hour allotted for that, which means they'll cut out in the middle again.
and then at 10:35 am beijing time on monday they're gonna show the finals on tape delay. again only one hour...
it's the youth olympics in singapore. that's what's gonna take up all their broadcast time. no time for ping-pong...
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Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 11:17pm
ohhgourami wrote:
Expecting an all chinese semi finals hehehe
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This is actually the most likely result...
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 08/16/2010 at 11:35pm
amateur wrote:
I give up... you're just clueless, there's no point arguing with someone like that.
Bottom line is that #3 and #4 seeds are drawn at random into either half - as opposed to placed deliberately as you thought. Etc. etc. etc.
Edit: the problem seems to be that you don't understand the meaning of the word "draw" - see below. A draw is by definition random, it's a lottery (it just follows certain constraints and parameters, which are formulated in the rules quoted above). ITTF does not place #3 or #4 deliberately near #1 or #2, nor do they have "wiggle-room" to do it one way or the other - it's decided by lot, by chance.
Draw: an act of selecting names randomly, typically by extracting them from a bag or other container, to match competitors in a game or tournament
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YOU are the one that's clueless!! i look at the pro tour draws most of time (for the men) and it's usually 1-3/2-4. the times that i have noticed it being 1-4/2-3 was in a pro tour event taking place a 2nd week in a row. after the top 4 seeds, then it becomes more random, as the rules allow. but generally 5 & 7 are on the odd side and 6 & 8 are on the even side.
that said, i do vaguely recall that at the '07 worlds, they put no. 3-ranked timo boll in no. 2-ranked wang liqin's half of the draw and i remarked at the time that they went against what they normally did just to put boll in with a guy he had beaten recently as opposed to putting him in with ma lin, who has basically owned him the overwhelming majority of times they've played. and you shot back with your usual "1-4, 2-3 is more balanced" and "that's what they do in other sports" lines.
anyhow, i guess "karma" intervened and boll got upset by ryu, a guy who had never beaten him before then.
i am a native english speaker and i am well aware of what the word "draw" means and, as far as i know, they only draw names out of a hat to set up the draw for the world cup and maybe the olympics. oh and also the tourney of champions and china vs. the world...
pray tell, when have you ever been in the room with the ittf officials when they are working on the draw for a pro tour event?? you don't know what they're doing!! in fact, i'm absolutely convinced you never even gave it a single thought until i mentioned it above!! and you being the prick that you are, you try to start an argument, which is a total joke, cuz that's something you clearly can't do straight!!
so, pls do keep your word this time and give up!! and stop trying to hijack this thread just to satisfy your sick need to feel superior!!
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Posted By: TTPokemonLover
Date Posted: 08/17/2010 at 1:33am
GO WANG LIQIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 08/17/2010 at 2:54am
Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 08/17/2010 at 3:09am
thanks for the list takaaki! so many top players, it's going to be a bloodbath!
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Posted By: rsundarajan_r
Date Posted: 08/17/2010 at 3:13am
My expectations in Semi :
2 chinese= Wang Liqin and wang hao,
Ger=Boll,
Korea or jpn= Joo or MIZUTANI.
The winner should be Liqin......
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Posted By: TT over Study
Date Posted: 08/17/2010 at 4:00am
lol, takaaki, listen to amateur, hes trying to teach you
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Posted By: Jubei
Date Posted: 08/17/2010 at 4:21am
I also think Amateur is correct ...
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Posted By: elcapitan_thfc
Date Posted: 08/17/2010 at 12:56pm
of course Amateur is correct>
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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 08/17/2010 at 7:10pm
Despite, Ma Long is absent, this will be the strongest Pro tournament of this year. Go Ma Lin!
My prediction: (I am always wrong, so this is how it will not be :))
Wang Hao 2 Wang Liqin 4 Wang Liqin 4 Zhang Jike 3 Zhang Jike 4 Jun Mizutani 2 Wang Liqin 4 Winner: WLQ :) Timo Boll 3
Chen Qi 3 Joo See Hyuk 4 Joo See Hyuk 3 Timo Boll 4 Xu Xin 3 Timo Boll 4
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Posted By: Zo k
Date Posted: 08/17/2010 at 7:22pm
Vladovich, I want to see all these matches in 7 strong games and WLQ new blade LOL!
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Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 08/17/2010 at 7:28pm
@ Vladovich, Chen Qi lose to Joo? It won't happen.
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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 08/17/2010 at 7:58pm
ohhgourami wrote:
@ Vladovich, Chen Qi lose to Joo? It won't happen.
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As I said: I am always wrong, but we will see this time. :P :D
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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 08/18/2010 at 12:06am
ohhgourami wrote:
@ Vladovich, Chen Qi lose to Joo? It won't happen.
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dont think so, lefty attacking a chopper i have a video where chen qi easily beat joo
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Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 08/18/2010 at 12:36am
Posted By: Anton Chigurh
Date Posted: 08/18/2010 at 12:54am
Would anyone call me crazy for thinking that Xu Xin might walk away with the win...?
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Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 08/18/2010 at 1:03am
Anton Chigurh wrote:
Would anyone call me crazy for thinking that Xu Xin might walk away with the win...?
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Not at all. But if Chen Qi played like he did in Super League, no one has a chance except for WLQ
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Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 08/18/2010 at 1:05am
Chen Qi is the dark horse, he is playing really good recently.
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Posted By: asimriz
Date Posted: 08/18/2010 at 2:23am
Hey ohhgourami ma man wots up ? Wang Liqin FTW man !!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: trainer
Date Posted: 08/18/2010 at 10:30am
I don't think Xu xin has been playing too well in the last little while .... personally I really like Zhang Jike.... i don't know why - i think it's his style... but I hope he takes it..
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Posted By: kentyu
Date Posted: 08/18/2010 at 12:08pm
ZHENG Jiaqi from the bay area made it through the women's qualification round. Good for her! :)
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Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 08/18/2010 at 1:02pm
US men did not advance, but Adam Hugh beat world # 248 Feng Xiaoquan of Austria.
Wally Green almost won a game.
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 08/18/2010 at 2:47pm
kentyu wrote:
ZHENG Jiaqi from the bay area made it through the women's qualification round. Good for her! :)
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She will immediately play Feng Tianwei ... not so lucky for her.
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Posted By: quakerroatmeal
Date Posted: 08/18/2010 at 4:39pm
Is there anyway to watch the qualifying matches?
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Posted By: tablet92
Date Posted: 08/18/2010 at 4:54pm
quakerroatmeal wrote:
Is there anyway to watch the qualifying matches? |
we need to hope that someone ripped matches from bwin
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Posted By: quakerroatmeal
Date Posted: 08/18/2010 at 5:03pm
ITTV never streams qualifying rounds? Only the main draws?
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Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 2:45am
This sucks...ITTF doesn't have anything until 1/4 Final :-< Does anyone know of CCTV would broadcast ??? CCTV 5 maybe?
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Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 3:25am
ittf have some videos up already, i think when wang hao plays cctv will have something live
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Posted By: quakerroatmeal
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 3:39am
All they have is women's singles round 1 up.
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Posted By: TT over Study
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 3:55am
ohhgourami wrote:
Anton Chigurh wrote:
Would anyone call me crazy for thinking that Xu Xin might walk away with the win...?
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Not at all. But if Chen Qi played like he did in Super League, no one has a chance except for WLQ
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chen qi is 55% in super league lol
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Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 5:06am
LOL!? What the hell then? On the tv schedule, there's no '' tick '' on the TV part or ITTV in all the other rounds ... This is so confusing =(
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Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 5:08am
And btw, I think Baggaley's serve should be faulted, he hid the ball ^^
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Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 5:25am
TT over Study wrote:
ohhgourami wrote:
Anton Chigurh wrote:
Would anyone call me crazy for thinking that Xu Xin might walk away with the win...?
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Not at all. But if Chen Qi played like he did in Super League, no one has a chance except for WLQ
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chen qi is 55% in super league lol |
Is 55% his overall? I thought he played amazingly well last month.
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Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 6:29am
Seiya Kishikawa has to play WLQ.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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Posted By: tablet92
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 6:48am
last year he beated chen qi, ma long and timo boll so I wouldn't be so sure about this match ;)
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Posted By: Kalin
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 8:37am
Illegal services by Ma Lin. referees do not have the guts to say something about it.
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Posted By: corsuse
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 8:42am
Didn't you notice that Cai Xiaoli that played with Wang Hao sometimes served away from the side line of the table? Isn't that service illegal?
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Posted By: Kalin
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 8:47am
I haven't seen that match, so I cannot judge about that, but Ma Lin is just serving the old school way.
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Posted By: wealthweb
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 9:56am
Anton Chigurh wrote:
Would anyone call me crazy for thinking that Xu Xin might walk away with the win...?
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Xu Xin is my favourite. He has the best forehand and footwork in my opinion. If only he has Wang Hao's RPB and Ma Lin's serve his play style will become one of the best teaching materials for the penholders.
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Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 10:41am
corsuse wrote:
Didn't you notice that Cai Xiaoli that played with Wang Hao sometimes served away from the side line of the table? Isn't that service illegal?
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No, as long as it's behind the back line.
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Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 10:57am
JimT wrote:
kentyu wrote:
ZHENG Jiaqi from the bay area made it through the women's qualification round. Good for her! :)
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She will immediately play Feng Tianwei ... not so lucky for her.
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The match is on itTV - illustrates the difference between USATT rating 2550 and world class...
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 12:13pm
Downloading the first round matches - will upload soon...
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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 12:24pm
JimT wrote:
Downloading the first round matches - will upload soon... |
why ittf is not posting the scores in the draw? if they cant have a decent site how media is gonna invest in TT?
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 12:42pm
First round matches (from itTV)
Darius Knight vs Timo Boll http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QWW184O1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QWW184O1
Jun Mizutani vs Andrew Baggaley http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J11RD3LZ - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J11RD3LZ
Ma Lin vs Ghosh Soumyajit http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2OZYRZAK - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2OZYRZAK
Wang Hao vs Cai Xiaoli http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GOAI5FI2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GOAI5FI2
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Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 12:46pm
Kalin wrote:
I haven't seen that match, so I cannot judge about that, but Ma Lin is just serving the old school way. |
He has been serving like this for years. How come NONE of his opponents have complained?
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Posted By: kentyu
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 1:51pm
amateur wrote:
JimT wrote:
kentyu wrote:
ZHENG Jiaqi from the bay area made it through the women's qualification round. Good for her! :)
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She will immediately play Feng Tianwei ... not so lucky for her.
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The match is on itTV - illustrates the difference between USATT rating 2550 and world class...
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Oh cool, can someone help extract this game for us to download? Looks like Feng figured out her game pretty quickly. It's still nice to watch U.S playing against a world class player. Thanks!
There is no doubt about the big gap between 2550 rating and world class... Just look at Kamal Sharath, he won the U.S Open but didn't even advance in the first round..
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Posted By: quakerroatmeal
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 1:59pm
You can stream it off ittv. Unless you want to save it on your hard drive personally.
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Posted By: Kalin
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 2:18pm
ZingyDNA wrote:
Kalin wrote:
I haven't seen that match, so I cannot judge about that, but Ma Lin is just serving the old school way. |
He has been serving like this for years. How come NONE of his opponents have complained?
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I know that he always has been serving like this, but most referees tolerate this, because he is a big name in table tennis. As for his opponents, it is not fraternal to say something about it.
When you get annoyed about this, you get distracted. And when you get distracted, you often do not play your best game.
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 2:34pm
kentyu wrote:
amateur wrote:
JimT wrote:
kentyu wrote:
ZHENG Jiaqi from the bay area made it through the women's qualification round. Good for her! :)
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She will immediately play Feng Tianwei ... not so lucky for her.
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The match is on itTV - illustrates the difference between USATT rating 2550 and world class...
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Oh cool, can someone help extract this game for us to download? Looks like Feng figured out her game pretty quickly. It's still nice to watch U.S playing against a world class player. Thanks!
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I will upload it later
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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 6:06pm
kentyu wrote:
amateur wrote:
JimT wrote:
kentyu wrote:
ZHENG Jiaqi from the bay area made it through the women's qualification round. Good for her! :)
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She will immediately play Feng Tianwei ... not so lucky for her.
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The match is on itTV - illustrates the difference between USATT rating 2550 and world class...
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Oh cool, can someone help extract this game for us to download? Looks like Feng figured out her game pretty quickly. It's still nice to watch U.S playing against a world class player. Thanks!
There is no doubt about the big gap between 2550 rating and world class... Just look at Kamal Sharath, he won the U.S Open but didn't even advance in the first round..
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She defeated tamara boros and jianghuajun last year both are pro
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Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 6:58pm
did anyone get drinkhalls game on record from bwin or anything??
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Posted By: sadra121
Date Posted: 08/19/2010 at 9:04pm
JimT wrote:
First round matches (from itTV)
Darius Knight vs Timo Boll http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QWW184O1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QWW184O1
Jun Mizutani vs Andrew Baggaley http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J11RD3LZ - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J11RD3LZ
Ma Lin vs Ghosh Soumyajit http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2OZYRZAK - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2OZYRZAK
Wang Hao vs Cai Xiaoli http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GOAI5FI2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GOAI5FI2
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Thank you very much JimT !
Do you have ALAMIYAN Noshad IRI
vs JOO Se Hyuk KOR ?
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Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 2:50am
China Open 2010 - Timo Boll vs Darius Knight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFdYpUbo_wo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFdYpUbo_wo
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Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 3:27am
kentyu wrote:
amateur wrote:
JimT wrote:
kentyu wrote:
ZHENG Jiaqi from the bay area made it through the women's qualification round. Good for her! :) | She will immediately play Feng Tianwei ... not so lucky for her. | The match is on itTV - illustrates the difference between USATT rating 2550 and world class... | Oh cool, can someone help extract this game for us to download? Looks like Feng figured out her game pretty quickly. It's still nice to watch U.S playing against a world class player. Thanks!There is no doubt about the big gap between 2550 rating and world class...Just look at Kamal Sharath, he won the U.S Open but didn't even advance in the first round.. |
I looked at the group results- http://www.ittf.com/competitions/_groups_matches.asp?grp=&Event_Type=MSP&Competition_ID=1969
i think it says kamal won his group? maybe pulled out due to injury?
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Posted By: quakerroatmeal
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 3:50am
I believe he made it through the qualifying round, but got knocked out in the first draw against gerell par.
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Posted By: Stef
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 6:48am
tablet92 wrote:
quakerroatmeal wrote:
Is there anyway to watch the qualifying matches? |
we need to hope that someone ripped matches from bwin |
I've ripped a lot of matches from bwin, which I will eventually upload to megaupload as usual
I will record the round of 32 singles matches later today and round of 16 tomorrow, but I won't be home to rip the quarterfinals .
Could any of you guys possibly do the "ripping" tomorrow, so we will get to see all the quarters?
I'll be happy to help with instructions if necessary.
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 11:12am
For some reasons I cannot download women's matches from itTV - the DL stops at around 70% and dies... tried many times...
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Posted By: BMonkey
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 11:29am
I just wanted to say: ITTF is really dropping the ball on video coverage of the China Open this year! Why they're holding on to those old Swedish Elite Leage and VW Cup matches from months ago is beyond me. Free up some server space and post up more matches. All the matches I've wanted to see thus far haven't been posted
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Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 12:18pm
Wang Hao is serving like Liu Guoliang now ! Cool !!!
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Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 1:18pm
TBS9x wrote:
Wang Hao is serving like Liu Guoliang now ! Cool !!!
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How do you mean?
Is he doing that tricky bh side serve?
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Posted By: corsuse
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 1:28pm
Where can the matches be watch live? Maybe CCTV 5? Can somebody give me a link where I can watch the matches on live?
In ittf it is written that they are on 13:00 and 13:45. What time is it? The chinese or... ?
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Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 1:34pm
kentyu wrote:
amateur wrote:
JimT wrote:
kentyu wrote:
ZHENG Jiaqi from the bay area made it through the women's qualification round. Good for her! :)
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She will immediately play Feng Tianwei ... not so lucky for her.
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The match is on itTV - illustrates the difference between USATT rating 2550 and world class...
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Oh cool, can someone help extract this game for us to download? Looks like Feng figured out her game pretty quickly. It's still nice to watch U.S playing against a world class player. Thanks!
There is no doubt about the big gap between 2550 rating and world class... Just look at Kamal Sharath, he won the U.S Open but didn't even advance in the first round..
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Feng Tianwei is not just world class, she's #2 in the world. Zheng Jiaqi beat some good players in the qualification.
Kamal Sharath is 2700+ USATT, and he is #39 in the world. That's world class.
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Posted By: naijachief
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 1:34pm
BMonkey wrote:
I just wanted to say: ITTF is really dropping the ball on video coverage of the China Open this year! Why they're holding on to those old Swedish Elite Leage and VW Cup matches from months ago is beyond me. Free up some server space and post up more matches. All the matches I've wanted to see thus far haven't been posted |
I totally agree. How can they post 4 singles matches from the 1st round and only 2 from the 2nd round. What kind of logic was used for that? By the way, I want to thank all the uploaders/rippers, I really appreciate the effort.
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Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 2:36pm
Few good matches on treat tomorrow.. Ma Lin vs Chen Qi. Let's see if Chen can produce like he does in the local league. I think Ma will win, but I am going to root for Chen anyway. Like the way he bombs just about everything.. Xu Xin vs Ovtcharov. Rising stars in their continent respectively, going with XX on this one. Boll vs Ryu. It will be pretty tough for Ryu to beat Boll, but this is the time for Ryu. Boll is not at his best at this moment. Go Ryu..
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Posted By: kentyu
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 3:18pm
LOOPMEISTER wrote:
kentyu wrote:
amateur wrote:
The match is on itTV - illustrates the difference between USATT rating 2550 and world class...
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Oh cool, can someone help extract this game for us to download? Looks like Feng figured out her game pretty quickly. It's still nice to watch U.S playing against a world class player. Thanks!
There is no doubt about the big gap between 2550 rating and world class... Just look at Kamal Sharath, he won the U.S Open but didn't even advance in the first round..
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Feng Tianwei is not just world class, she's #2 in the world. Zheng Jiaqi beat some good players in the qualification.
Kamal Sharath is 2700+ USATT, and he is #39 in the world. That's world class.
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Ok, I'm not sure why this is becoming a debate and trying to define the term world class.. I never said she is bad or anything. I think she is great that's why I want to see if I can download her game against Feng Tianwei.
amateur was using this particular match to talk about the difference between USATT rating 2550 and world class so I went ahead and just use that term.. maybe he just need to be more specific and say "#2 in the world".
anyways, this is a thread about China Open so let's not ruin it.
I'm still waiting for Zeng Jiaqi's match for download if its available. Thanks in advance!!
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Posted By: TTNoobie
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 4:18pm
When is ittv going to stream LIVE?
Tonight's matches starts 11:30PM EST with women's singles? Will it be live?!
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Posted By: quakerroatmeal
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 4:28pm
Do they just pick what they want to upload onto the website/stream live? I wish there were more matches posted up there.
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Posted By: Stef
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 4:36pm
Round of 64:
Kim Chol Jin (PRK) - Kaii Yoshida (JPN)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JN54U3G3 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JN54U3G3
Wu Chih-Chi (TPE) - Seo Hyun Deok (KOR)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SK6QRN6Y - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SK6QRN6Y
Janos Jakab (HUN) - Bastian Steger (GER)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UL6S3TPU - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UL6S3TPU
Round of 32:
Kenta Matsudaira (JPN) - Chuang Chih-Yuan (TPE)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q52ZOOG8 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q52ZOOG8
Paul Drinkhall (ENG) - Chen Qi (CHN)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6YAZOP8Z - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6YAZOP8Z
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Posted By: quakerroatmeal
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 4:42pm
Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 4:48pm
kentyu wrote:
Ok, I'm not sure why this is becoming a debate and trying to define the term world class.. I never said she is bad or anything. I think she is great that's why I want to see if I can download her game against Feng Tianwei.
amateur was using this particular match to talk about the difference between USATT rating 2550 and world class so I went ahead and just use that term.. maybe he just need to be more specific and say "#2 in the world".
anyways, this is a thread about China Open so let's not ruin it.
I'm still waiting for Zeng Jiaqi's match for download if its available. Thanks in advance!!
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sorry man, I was speaking to the conversation not just you. I wasn't very clear. I also think its cool to see US players going against world class players. But playing the #2 in the world isn't a good way to measure how one will do against world class players in general. And I don't know how Kamal got added to the conversation of 2550 USATT players against world class... He is over 2700+ USATT and #39 in the world!
Anyway it was interesting to see Knight play against Boll. Darius Knight is a pretty big up and comer in England (from what I've read/heard), and he would probably be rated 2500-2600 in the the US. Boll played so relaxed, it looked like he didn't even break a sweat!
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Posted By: corsuse
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 5:09pm
Where to watch the matches on live? :(
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Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 6:44pm
anyone have WLQ vs Kishikawa?
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Posted By: TTNoobie
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 8:59pm
corsuse wrote:
Where to watch the matches on live? :( |
bwin.com streams them live , BUT it's a gambling site and requires you to make an account and make a one time deposit (I think $10?), which means you need to give them your credit card info. Not good
ittv usually streams the Quarter finals live
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Posted By: sadra121
Date Posted: 08/20/2010 at 11:18pm
Posted By: TTPokemonLover
Date Posted: 08/21/2010 at 1:35am
no way, most ILLEGAL serve ever is christian suss... SO ILLEGAL
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Posted By: TTPokemonLover
Date Posted: 08/21/2010 at 1:37am
im hoping for a WLQ win. He beat Lee jung woo easily in four games and wang hao is looking pretty good... so far hes cruising, 3-1 over chuang. on the womens side... its not going to be shen yanfei again... its probably going to be liu BUT GO GUO YUE! :D
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Posted By: kasumi
Date Posted: 08/21/2010 at 1:46am
shen yanfei defeat guo yue! amazing!
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Posted By: TTPokemonLover
Date Posted: 08/21/2010 at 2:20am
HOW DID SHEN YANFEI BEAT GUO YUE?????? THIS IS ODD.... P.S. kasumi i like your signature lol
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