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Originally posted by LOOPMEISTER LOOPMEISTER wrote:

You guys are having some fierce volleys. Good play. Clap

Just a minor thought... That guy is popping up a lot of your serves. You should have a fh smash for those in your arsenal. You know, where you step to the side of the table a little bit and do a table-sweeping fh smash right at the top of the bounce. Fast and deliberate.

 
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I know what your saying about the put away finisher.  I wish I had one but in the almost 6 years of my playing my backhand has always been able to do all the shots in the game.  My Forehand however has always pretty much been a one liner.  It can be good at smashing when I practise that, but then I can't loop as well with it and vice versa.  Right now My forehand can topspin loop the hell out of anything pretty much but my consistancy of a pure 100% smash is down to about 60%.  So I loop sidespin the ball when its higher.  Im not sure if this is a tenergy thing?  Because when I watch Boll receiving high balls he usually sidespins over and over again.....
 
Anyway way I love to counter loop over and over again as boll does more than finishing every shot 3rd ball, or losing every shot 3rd ball...
 
 
 
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Tape your practice sessions so you can clean up (ex. better positioning after each shot); I like your intent.  He's lucky that you allowed him some chances (you backed off).  Be more assertive in blocking & countering ( he actually popped up so many of your serves that I'm surprised you did not smash).  

Your opponent's technique is blah; his strength is determination period.

I think you're around 2100 U.S rating.
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i hear a tocking noise on his bh, pips?
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are you sure that's the best guy you have in your club ? :)
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that no.1 club guy looks like has a disgusting forehand, good job putting him on ice :D
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You rely too much on arm power. Turn your body. And BH is too high, like yogi said.
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you sholud lower the height of your bh attacks boz its possible it might be smashed even if its spinny
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Nice game.
It looks like you're backhand orientated because of your grip. Does your thumb stick up? Do you change grip to do forehand? This might be why you lollipop block with your forehand and have trouble crossing over. I also found with this grip that its hard to do forehands down the line. In this video there wasn't many of them.
I also realised when you get into backhand rallies your right foot creeps in front but you seem to cope when it comes to your forehand though.

There's my best attempt at constructive feedback.
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Nobody... & I mean nobody pops their collar like you bozbrisvegas! Wink
I feel better. I've been meaning to tell you that for weeks & weeks.

Enjoyed the vid.

For me, soft sponges are the way to go.
Seems to be working for your BH too.
Are you relaxed in your body or somewhat tight when you play?
I want you to have even more effectiveness/success.
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Originally posted by bozbrisvegas bozbrisvegas wrote:

appearance or stroke or manner?
 Stroke manner.
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Great video.. I was considering Solcion for my bh for the same reason.  It seems like it could be good to punch with and some spin if you need it too.  Again great match! Thanks for sharing.
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Originally posted by bozbrisvegas bozbrisvegas wrote:

I am the guy in light blue - I was using my backhand because it was about 3 times more reliable at opening up, the few deleted points were trying open up on fh which kept going wrong, so I stuck to bh all the way through.  He was also having trouble with the pace I was keeping, constantly on the attack even though it was blockable.
The guy in the dark blue usually is not a blocker.  He is usually as I said the fastest fh in our state, I kept the pressure up on him and you can see he had a lot of trouble with reading how much spin was on my shots. 
 
I havent used a control rubber in competition before so it was amazing me how easy it was to keep looping everything - sometimes side swipe sometime punch they all just kept going on the table without worrying. 
 
And yes I know everyone is going to say use your forehand.  I know this already, but when you start playing and you all your shots just start missing amd you really want to win, are you going to say forget your strong point? Or a you going to utilize it?  Look at Ovcharov for example...
 
 


oohhh... I thought you were the other.
the match seemed fine from your perspective.
not many problems.
I wouldn't recommend pivot and opening with forehand except if you have quick feet and a killer forehand. opening backhand seems fine.
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You guys are having some fierce volleys. Good play. Clap

Just a minor thought... That guy is popping up a lot of your serves. You should have a fh smash for those in your arsenal. You know, where you step to the side of the table a little bit and do a table-sweeping fh smash right at the top of the bounce. Fast and deliberate.

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tried searching for an image and didnt know that jonyer was a  clampar and another guy klampar - so still dont know why he reminds you of him... appearance or stroke or manner?
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The guy with the glasses reminds me of Klampar.
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I am the guy in light blue - I was using my backhand because it was about 3 times more reliable at opening up, the few deleted points were trying open up on fh which kept going wrong, so I stuck to bh all the way through.  He was also having trouble with the pace I was keeping, constantly on the attack even though it was blockable.
The guy in the dark blue usually is not a blocker.  He is usually as I said the fastest fh in our state, I kept the pressure up on him and you can see he had a lot of trouble with reading how much spin was on my shots. 
 
I havent used a control rubber in competition before so it was amazing me how easy it was to keep looping everything - sometimes side swipe sometime punch they all just kept going on the table without worrying. 
 
And yes I know everyone is going to say use your forehand.  I know this already, but when you start playing and you all your shots just start missing amd you really want to win, are you going to say forget your strong point? Or a you going to utilize it?  Look at Ovcharov for example...
 
 
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ok arrange me a match against this guy... :D
for what I can see the guy in light blue has decent backhand (I think 90% of his shots are backhand). force him to use forehand and make mistakes with that shot.
give him long serves to forehand with tons of spin.
the guy in blue and white seems to me like a blocker. but for me you are making a mistake. if you block you need to stay close to the table and with knees bent. this will make your block harder to receive.
if you go back and start passing/looping with no spin the ball, you're done.
so, if you are going to block stay close. if you go a bit back to make a looping movement, then make a really agressive one. otherwise you give attack and iniciative to the other.
one more thing, if you serve long your opponent always answers with that bh loop wich you block and then you're on defensive mode. serve really short so you cut his initial bh loop.
when you serve you should really try to be the one attacking.
last, put short pips on backhand.
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Yes it's me again, but guys this is one of the best matches I've played where it was real competition counting towards something.  I won't comment much I just really think you should watch it.  I'll comment more later.

I'll just say, I didn't let him use his FH.
 
Solcion stays on bh for me that's for sure.
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