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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kyle90 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/19/2011 at 12:44pm
you must  be rated under 1100. you're missing too many shots to be any higher. just concentrate on keeping the ball on the table for now, and eventually you'll get your strokes to fall into place at the right moment during a point
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ohhgourami Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/19/2011 at 12:37pm
College of course man...I'm a 3rd year and my opponent is a grad student.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote shihjye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/19/2011 at 12:27pm
Practice at school? o.O Like high school? Or college. Either way, it's much nicer than when I got to "play", not practice, in hs... and it's also nicer than what we have in college.... > .>
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ohhgourami Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/19/2011 at 12:23pm
Originally posted by JyeChen JyeChen wrote:

Dang, it's not fair. I want to train in California. D: You're facility looks so spacious, and I took a peek at the coaching one and that looks like gerfloor stuff. :P

This is practice at school, which is in a gym.  In my training vids, yup that stuff is like gerfloor.  Mmmm I love playing on that stuff.  Plus it's easier on the legs.


BTW, you guys are funny!  My opponent is over 2000 USATT.  I absolutely hate receiving serves from him since they are these mid short topspin serves to my bh which are slightly off position for my push flick technique, but very difficult for me to return with bh.  The reason why I receive fh on every ball on every serve is because I can vary my returns a lot more as I can turn topspin serves into short underspin, flick, or something else.  Also its slightly out of my range to powerfick (or at least use more power) since anything that weak gets killed.  Of all the serves I have to receive, his is one of the hardest to return for me as it exposes one of the biggest flaws in my service return - my bh.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tpgh2k Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/19/2011 at 12:17pm
+1 delgado. i'm gonna make sure u and i play next time i'm in the orlando area!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DeIgado Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/19/2011 at 11:56am
Alot of people here are telling you to change your setup. Don't change it there's no reason, control is all relative. A friend of mine went from a 900 to a 1500 with a TBS w/ T05 on both sides and is only getting better. Your FH stroke may be a bit elongated but your form is perfect and your handspeed will increase in time. Like I said in my first post, push more and pick better shots to open up on. Your game is fine you just need more experience.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote shihjye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/19/2011 at 11:47am
Dang, it's not fair. I want to train in California. D: You're facility looks so spacious, and I took a peek at the coaching one and that looks like gerfloor stuff. :P
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your set up seems too fast for you.. or your strokes goes hair wired?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ZJKandMLfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/19/2011 at 10:25am
o and also, your forehand swing is much too big and your arm is too straight.  contact the ball closer to your body whereas in your training videos, you contact the ball way too much too far frmo ur body
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ZJKandMLfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/19/2011 at 10:24am
not bad but the posters above me pretty much summed it up..

you really need to work on your footwork.  for example in the beggining, the guy served a couple of serves to your bh side short and you kept moving with your right foot forward.  although on most occasions you should be moving your right leg forward to receive the short ball, if he is serving to the very corner of your bh side (short) your left foot should moev forward.  

if you move your right foot forward, ull be out of position for your next shot and you won't receive that shot well either.  

the example im talking about is at 1:23
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Yo dawg,

I'm no coach or anything but here's my observations: I'm going to agree with the first two posters as well as add that you should shorten your swing, i.e., make it more compact. You have a very large backswing but there is very little arm speed nor power behind it. For the short spinny balls that you try to topspin, you arm is almost always completely straight out, and you get no snap from your elbow. I watched both matches as well as your training videos and I think you need to retool your FH stroke. You have lots of waist rotation which is good but you aren't transferring the power properly.

It seems like for every topspin ball off the table you have only one answer to it, but there are many different kinds of loops that you need to practice and incorporate, not just the full-out power loop. You also need to realize that your current stroke requires a massive recovery time and good footwork in order to pull off consecutive, accurate shots. Otherwise, most of your loops can easily be blocked back towards your center or elbow and pin you down (which happens a few times in the video).

Some good points: Your service timing is very good, so keep that up. I would say that you should not try to return every serve with your forehand though. Try returning/opening up more with the backhand so you don't have to force yourself so far off to the left. I'd have to agree with Delgado and go with 1400 from what I just watched. Your friend is probably lower than you but he played more patiently and had much better control over his service returns. I'm sure he mostly relied on your over-aggressiveness and errors to win.

Thanks for sharing!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chris.b40 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/19/2011 at 9:06am

I would change that set-up, I know your love for HK but that blade I 've played with was too hard for my playing style some blades are not for everyone they don't fit their particular style of play. I suggest you try a softer blade AVX or similar and take your game from the basic stage up like I have ...you can only get better.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DeIgado Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/19/2011 at 8:24am
It is very hard to guess rating based on video, no offense if you are higher but I'm gonna go with 1400 because your serves are very good but you are too aggressive. You could easily go up 200 points just by picking your shots better and being more patient with your game. It is obvious that you will go up very quickly very soon, but from that video, I am gonna vote on 1400. 
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I decided to put get my gf to record me playing today.  My game was totally off but I gotta work with what I got and I'm just going to post it anyway.

http://youtu.be/n_N0KJUMhuQ



While playing I knew I was making some silly mistake and had no idea why my service receives sucked so much (like I was constantly surprised).  Guess, what...I wasn't ready!  Maybe my friend is serve rushing me or I'm just out of it, but I should be ready every time!  Comment if you want, this was a mess.


This is me after I finally chilled out a bit.  Shots start going in more often and I'm willing to be a bit more aggressive.  Also I'm not surprised by serves.

http://youtu.be/aOVoqZenSs8


Just out of curiosity, what do you think my opponents rating is?  What about me?


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