A training match of myself
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Topic: A training match of myself
Posted By: TBS9x
Subject: A training match of myself
Date Posted: 04/23/2011 at 12:35pm
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Hello guys! Long time no see  This is my first time posting a video of myself playing a training match since I moved to long pips. Hopefully you guys will give me some insights as to how to improve my game further because there are definitely many big flaws in my game and my opponent as well which we haven't found out yet! So any constructive criticisms (even harsh ones) are welcome. If you would like, can you please rate me and my friend according to the US scale if possible? I'm not sure how it works but would like to see which level me and my friend (trainee) are on. That would be helpful too.Thank you! ------------- Blade: Joo Se Hyuk Stiga Boost TC Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW |
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Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 04/23/2011 at 12:55pm
| Best stadium in the world still |
Posted By: Carbon TT
Date Posted: 04/23/2011 at 1:06pm
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When you serve, don't drop the ball below the surface of the table. ------------- Primorac Carbon MX-P | EL-P |
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/23/2011 at 1:09pm
That's very true, I regret having done that, though I'm totally unconscious of doing that during match, definitely something to improve next time. Thanks! 
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Posted By: Carbon TT
Date Posted: 04/23/2011 at 1:13pm
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No problem, other than that I would just say make sure you aren't flat footed on the return of serve. I realize it is hard to see how a person is balanced in a video, but from your ready stance it kind of looks like you might be.
As for level it is difficult to say because I cannot see the other person in the video at the same time during the rally. So it's hard to tell if the person out of the screen is giving the one that's in screen quality shots. ------------- Primorac Carbon MX-P | EL-P |
Posted By: stereotip
Date Posted: 04/23/2011 at 1:20pm
Very nice play.
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Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 04/23/2011 at 1:27pm
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the dungeon is back! oy! why did you move the dead bodies?!?!?!?
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Posted By: ZJKandMLfan
Date Posted: 04/23/2011 at 1:36pm
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ur forehand push isn't heavy enough. theres actually nto much spin on that so u wanna add a lot more especially if ur a chopper ------------- Blade: Photino FH: Donic Acuda S1, MAX BH: Tenergy 64, MAX |
Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 04/23/2011 at 1:47pm
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one question....how do you not die from running into the bricks??
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Posted By: tomkat22
Date Posted: 04/23/2011 at 1:49pm
| Probably 1600 USATT,give or take 100. |
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/23/2011 at 1:59pm
@tpgh2k: that's what I'm best at, surviving in this "dungeon" !  @ZJKandMLfan: thanks for your advice, I will think about that, although sometimes I want to set up my own attacking game so... @tomkat22: great, good to know :D ------------- Blade: Joo Se Hyuk Stiga Boost TC Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW |
Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 04/23/2011 at 6:02pm
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I don't have any tip for your style, but I think you play very well. If you can play like you do in the video against any player, then I think any one under 1800 may have problem with you. |
Posted By: ninglei23
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 5:44am
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your a very good chopper you just have to improve your forehand stroke don't just use your arm use your body and hips too..goodluck
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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 5:51am
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If you play in our Lyulin Open I will give you 1800 +/- 100 to begin with. |
Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 6:17am
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If you have to hit a 2nd fh shot, you stand up right after the first one. Make you get ready again for the next shot by squatting back down again. This will let you be soooo much more consistent on fh.
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Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 7:00am
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Thanks guys! I've realized that also, I do need to squat down. I will definitely try it today and see how it works out! :D
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Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 7:52am
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TBS9x is higher than 1600, but easily under 2000. His chops are not so heavy, land high, and not so deep. He would trouble the U1600 crowd. His serve/attack is above 1600. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 7:53am
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Oh, forgot the training partner. He chicken wing returns balls on FH with BH and seems to be generally 100 points lower rated than TBS9x. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: davidz
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 8:12am
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Pretty good! I guess your rating could be about 1750-1800, and your friend's rating is about 1650. ------------- PG7 (Skyline 2, LKT XP) YEO (Skyline 2, Skyline 3) |
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 11:33am
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Thank you! I did play my defensive game rather badly during the match :D I have to admit that, the chops are high because I chop the balls too early and I'm trying to fix it as soon as possible.
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Posted By: bayttplayer
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 1:16pm
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have you ever seen 1600 USATT player play like that???
 this guy over 2000 in my opinion.. ------------- Innerforce-ZLC FL + H3 + T80 |
tomkat22 wrote:Posted By: stereotip
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 1:59pm
You're definitely right. Just look how play Pushblocker and he is over 2200. TBS9x is better in every way. I mean PB even doesn't have a FH and he is 2200+. |
Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 2:05pm
haha, I was just going to post the same question ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35056&PN=14&title=feedback-liulin04" rel="nofollow - My Feedbacks |
Posted By: bayttplayer
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 3:28pm
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You're definitely right. Just look how play Pushblocker and he is over 2200. TBS9x is better in every way. I mean PB even doesn't have a FH and he is 2200+. [/QUOTE] yes。。I play with 2000 chopper often.
this guy just much better.
I mean what else he is missing?
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Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 4:46pm
| I'd say 1800-1900. And the talk about pushblocker is nonsense, its a different type of game to play against a good long pip blocker and a chopper. |
Posted By: roundrobin
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 4:56pm
Agreed. 1800-1900 is about right.  |
Posted By: tomkat22
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 5:04pm
| Maybe 1800 on a "good day". His opponent is feeding him lots of "creampuff",easy balls. A good 2000 class looper in my area would eat his lunch.(No offense intended TBS9x) |
Posted By: Carbon TT
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 5:37pm
I must agree with this to an extent, it is very difficult to say how good he really is just because it does not appear he is being put under very much pressure. ------------- Primorac Carbon MX-P | EL-P |
Posted By: bayttplayer
Date Posted: 04/25/2011 at 1:26am
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I think you guys just over valuation for a 1900 player..
1900 player basically just OK serve with some FH....
look at your club, you won't see that many 1900 able continue loop heavy under spin against a chopper. some 1900 even have problem with LP.
TBS9x has good serve, good push, FH and footwork that is about what a chopper needed.
He definitely over 2000.
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Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/25/2011 at 3:58am
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No no guys, I can't be compared to Pushblocker because we don't fall into the same category, definitely. And even just assuming that I have a better forehand and some other techniques, that is not what counts when it is put into the rating because he simply wins because opponents are not familiar with his style and I bet if I meet him the first time he will probably have me 3-0 easily. @tomkat22,roundrobin,carbonTT: you guys are right on the spot! I can't say that I'm over 1800, maybe around 1700 maximum because I feel that my performance is still not stable enough, what I show you now is just on a fairly good day when I'm not under pressure, maybe I will have to post something again soon so you guys can compare? And yes tomkat22, what you say is true I'm fine with that. Well, unless I'm in a surprisingly good shape and he suits my game then we might not know but on an average day then I'm pretty screwed.Once again, very grateful for all the comments MYTT is still best place to learn on the net :D------------- Blade: Joo Se Hyuk Stiga Boost TC Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW |
Posted By: qynthnghm
Date Posted: 04/25/2011 at 5:47am
| Good horse stance. |
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/25/2011 at 6:30am
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@qynthnghm: alright, sounds a little strange but ok :D Actually I just realized that my backhand chops are impaired because when I wait for the ball I put my weight on my left leg which is supposed to be moving (stupid me...), I should have put most weight on the right leg so I can quickly "leap" to my left side so I can get ready for my opponent's loop. ------------- Blade: Joo Se Hyuk Stiga Boost TC Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW |
Posted By: qynthnghm
Date Posted: 04/26/2011 at 12:50am
Is that when you are moving left and back for your backhand chop? I always thought you were supposed to skip off the left foot and then follow with the right, so that the right foot steps to where your left foot was. It's like a basic movement in both fencing and JKD for rapid forward and backward dashes. Maybe it might sound strange, but that is what the stance is called in Chinese martial arts; having your feet set wide apart and "sitting" down with the back straight for stability and balance (similar to riding a horse). For example, Timo Boll has an excellent horse stance when he prepares for service return. |
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/26/2011 at 1:13am
Oh now I understand, you mean I bent my legs down well ? Okay, cool cool, a little confusing term but alright  Anyway about the movement when chopping on backhand side, I normally put too much pressure on the left leg when waiting for the ball which means that the ball might just go straight to my body or very wide to my backhand. In case it is wide to my backhand and I'm already having a lot of weight on my left leg then I can't move to the left because I'm stabilizing my body with that leg. But now that I know my problem, when I wait for the ball I would put more weight on the right leg so that I can push myself to the left if needed and then all the weight will be transfered to the left leg again during the chop ------------- Blade: Joo Se Hyuk Stiga Boost TC Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW |
Posted By: qynthnghm
Date Posted: 04/26/2011 at 1:26am
I think you're right. It works both ways but I confused the direction of movement. When anticipating a forward dash, the weight should be on your back (left) leg (if you're right handed), and for backward dashes, the weight should be on the front (right) leg. Note that you should try keeping (and pushing off) on the ball of your right foot instead of just planting all your weight flat-footed on the ground for greater agility. Either way, your form is impressive and you should continue making video updates. |
Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 04/26/2011 at 1:31am
I don't know how anyone could rate your partner as no-one could see him (I take that back if you changed ends as I only watched the vid for a while) ------------- Ulmo Duality,Donic BlueGrip C2 red max ,Yinhe Super Kim Ox Black NZ table tennis selector, third in the World (plate Doubles)I'm Listed on the ITTF website |
Posted By: qynthnghm
Date Posted: 04/26/2011 at 1:48am
| Judging by his partially-seen hand, I would say 1800+. |
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/26/2011 at 2:42am
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@qynthnghm: oh....now I see, you're talking about forward movement while I'm talking about sidewards movement :D hehe....mis-understanding. @smackman: thank you! I didn't change the camera angle so maybe next time I will use two cameras to make things easier. Anyway, the reason I didn't loop is because I wanted to play safe (that's bad) but also the playing area is very limited and I don't want to hit my racket or my head to the wall so that's my only viable option ------------- Blade: Joo Se Hyuk Stiga Boost TC Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW |
Posted By: qynthnghm
Date Posted: 04/26/2011 at 2:46am
Even for sideways movement, the footwork I described can still apply, except instead of putting weight on the stabilizing back foot and keeping little weight on the ball of the leading foot, the weight would be distributed evenly on both balls of the feet for quick lateral movement. Cheers. Edit: Should note that obviously the weight cannot be kept always on the balls of the feet as that would be a great strain overall on the legs. I meant that the push-off motion from side to side must start from the balls of the feet.  |
Posted By: joanet261
Date Posted: 05/02/2011 at 7:33am
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First of all, well played. I think the first thing you should try on working is your body movement when you play the ball, especially when playing your forehand. Most of the times, you should start the movement with your body a little lower, and then move it upward in the direction you are playing the ball (more up if it's a topspin against backspin, and more front if it's a countertopspin), as it would allow you to make less arm movement. Also think you should have to put your upper body a little less parallel to the table, again specially with the FH, but that could be the camera angle. With your pimples, in the return of the service try to push a little more, as you will give more speed and effect to the ball, and when defending far away of the table maybe try brush the ball a little more, you will see that it gives a lot more effect. Keep training hard ------------- http://cttcollbato.cat - http://cttcollbato.cat |
Posted By: ZJKandMLfan
Date Posted: 05/03/2011 at 1:09am
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this guy is a great player but he is not pb's lvl and definitely not over 2000. i wud say hes about 1700 to be fair. ------------- Blade: Photino FH: Donic Acuda S1, MAX BH: Tenergy 64, MAX |