Me vs. 1900 guy
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Topic: Me vs. 1900 guy
Posted By: duchoangle
Subject: Me vs. 1900 guy
Date Posted: 05/08/2011 at 12:53am
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This is a recent practice match of me and a 1900 guy (close to 2000 at his
peak). For a better viewing experience, I edited out the service return
errors - there were about 3-4 of them per game, mainly because we
didn't know each other very well and my opponent's serves are especially
tricky, not too spinny but very deceiving. Compared to the opponents in my previous videos ( http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41233 - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41233 ), this guy is a lot tougher and puts way more pressure on me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AND4c_xhq6M - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AND4c_xhq6M Feel free to comment on whatever you see, but I noticed 3 things: my FH loop off backspin seems to lack power, my BH rally is unstable, and I get caught offguard on the wide FH corner too often, so inputs on these weaknesses are welcomed! Thanks! PS: I'm the guy in green ------------- Donic Epox Offensiv - Tenergy 05-FX 2.1mm (BH) - Tenergy 80 2.1mm (FH) | USATT: 1831 http://www.youtube.com/user/lehoangduc1990/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=1" rel="nofollow - My Videos |
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Posted By: vali
Date Posted: 05/08/2011 at 2:13am
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You have nice forehand though. But the elbow is to close to the body in most shots. When using backhand you are not using the rotation of the torso (initially you are not putting the right shoulder in front) , only you hit with the arm , the elbow is too close and then you have no power. ------------- Clipper FH: XIOM Vega Asia , max BH: Yasaka RAKZA7, 2.0 |
Posted By: Hookshot
Date Posted: 05/08/2011 at 2:52am
| On forhand loops, you cross your left leg infront of your right too often. Most could have been reached by stepping right with your right leg. |
Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 05/08/2011 at 3:02am
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You've obviously spent some table time since your last clip and your progression looks fine to me, you need to drill yr wide f/hand, as said above, you have 'crossover footwork where a sissor step would be more correct. Do you know how to do the falkenberg drill? ------------- The Older I get, The better I was. |
Posted By: Hookshot
Date Posted: 05/08/2011 at 3:07am
| Actually, it shows up on the backhand several times also. Makes recovery for the next shot very hard. When you cross over like that, the loop becomes an arm loop, no power. |
Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 05/08/2011 at 8:54am
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sorry who is who? ------------- Ulmo Duality,Donic BlueGrip C2 red max ,Yinhe Super Kim Ox Black NZ table tennis selector, third in the World (plate Doubles)I'm Listed on the ITTF website |
Posted By: duchoangle
Date Posted: 05/08/2011 at 12:39pm
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The funny thing is that when I do the Falkenberg drill I never cross my legs like that, but it always shows up in games. Any idea why that happens? @smackman: I'm the guy in green, starting out on the far side ------------- Donic Epox Offensiv - Tenergy 05-FX 2.1mm (BH) - Tenergy 80 2.1mm (FH) | USATT: 1831 http://www.youtube.com/user/lehoangduc1990/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=1" rel="nofollow - My Videos |
Posted By: chu_bun
Date Posted: 05/09/2011 at 12:04am
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My coach said don't backup when you are on the offensive, after serving or looping for example. He said doing is to give up the initiative and give the opponent more time to react to the shot. Don't know if he is correct though. I find standing a few feet from the table give me more time and space. I've also seen pro's doing that. Ovtcharov is an extreme case. He jumps back 1, 2 feet after serving. ------------- Clipper Wood, Sanwei Gears FH, Sanwei T88-I BH. |
Posted By: duchoangle
Date Posted: 05/09/2011 at 12:57am
Well it's not like I want to move away from the table, it's because my opponent forces me to. The bigger the threat, the further I back up. I used to block a lot, but recently I discovered that backing up and spin the ball back onto the table is a more effective defensive method against most players. ------------- Donic Epox Offensiv - Tenergy 05-FX 2.1mm (BH) - Tenergy 80 2.1mm (FH) | USATT: 1831 http://www.youtube.com/user/lehoangduc1990/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=1" rel="nofollow - My Videos |
chu_bun wrote:Posted By: hookumsnivy
Date Posted: 05/09/2011 at 6:05pm
That's funny, my coach told me the opposite. It might be different for different styles though. He had 3 reasons for this: 1. It's much easier to move forward than move back while staying in a good position. 2. When I serve I'm really close to the table. If I stay that close I will be taking the ball too early (especially on my backhand loop). 3. My loops are typically fast and spinny and if I'm too close to the table, I don't have time to react properly when it gets returned. He's not telling me to back up 5 feet from the table - just a couple of feet. |
Posted By: pingpongphong
Date Posted: 05/10/2011 at 2:02pm
| Where r u guys playing at? looks like UTD to me... is that right? |
Posted By: liberty.sky
Date Posted: 05/21/2011 at 1:06pm
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if you feel lack power, majority of players under 2000 is because you're going over the top too thinly. when you topspin long shots, you need to spin it from the bottom half of the ball punching outwards. ------------- Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon Xiom Vega Pro / Tenergy 64 USATT 2052 |