Throw away your blades
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Topic: Throw away your blades
Posted By: Tinykin_2
Subject: Throw away your blades
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 4:21pm
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Many of us will have blades that are slightly damaged. Ryan Jenkins was disqualified from the Austrian Open for having such a bat. Do you think it was fair? http://etta.co.uk/news/jenkins-disqualified-from-austrian-open/ - http://etta.co.uk/news/jenkins-disqualified-from-austrian-open/ ------------- Member of Single Ply Club. Shakehand, Kauri wood by American Hinoki, 1-ply 7mm. FH> Gambler Reflectoid. BH> Yasaka Mark V |
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Posted By: melarimsa
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 4:47pm
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WOW !
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Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 4:47pm
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Posted By: artakwol
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 5:02pm
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The blade is damaged.
The rules are rules. Now the players will be more accurate with their equipment. |
Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 5:11pm
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Another rule designed to increase player spending on equipment.
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Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 5:21pm
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It will teach players to be more careful not to hit the table... If one plays for money, I think it's fair. If it were just recreational play, choice of disqualifying a player should be given to the opponent, at most. At my level, nobody inspects the opponents' blade that accurately and they could hide just about anything by using edge tape. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: Tinykin_2
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 5:36pm
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I find the decision strange. I wonder if it's a new ITTF policy. The blades of most elite players that I've seen (blades that are > 1yo) have more chips etc. It was far worse during the SG era. ------------- Member of Single Ply Club. Shakehand, Kauri wood by American Hinoki, 1-ply 7mm. FH> Gambler Reflectoid. BH> Yasaka Mark V |
Posted By: Speedplay
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 6:10pm
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If this was found before the game, the umpire would do right to force him to change blade. If it was found during the game (due to an accident in the game) the umprie should have checked the bat and then forced him to change bat and continue to play.
As it stands now, I feel like the umpire failed to do his job and Ryan has to pay the price for the umpires mistake. Cause if it would have been discovered during the match, he wouldn't have been disqualified but allowed to continue the match with a replacement bat. ------------- The holy grail |
Posted By: Tinykin_2
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 6:35pm
I understand what you are saying. I am just wondering if this a new policy. Whatever the rules are, the blades of pros have tended to be in even worse condition. That is, from what I've seen. Maybe today's pros change their blades more often so don't have to worry. I don't know. ------------- Member of Single Ply Club. Shakehand, Kauri wood by American Hinoki, 1-ply 7mm. FH> Gambler Reflectoid. BH> Yasaka Mark V |
Speedplay wrote:Posted By: Stoi
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 6:45pm
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Well its clear that there is a part at the top of the blade that has been damage but it is a disadvantage for him anyway. Rules are made to help us and i can't see how this helped anyone except his opponents. Thats a weird rule and it needs alteration or the umpire needs to learn to apply it properly. Couldn't they let him use another blade? |
Posted By: chunyenliu
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 7:18pm
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The ruling was strange from the description. I myself am a certified umpire. Wonder if it was really the whole story about the disqualification. Was it more like damaging the blade as Adrian Crisan intentionally did a couple of years ago at US Open to switch to another blade? Or was it because of player's behavior? Just a blade issue like that did not seem to make the case. ------------- My free Android app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidlet.tabletennistime" rel="nofollow">"Table Tennis Time" at Google 
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Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 9:26pm
the other player from the group was also disqualified so maybe they wanted the Korean to win (I hope this isnt the case) even with pros bats you would hardly ever see a blade that would look like 100% new after playing in matches, my own bats are rent a dents lol ------------- Ulmo Duality,Donic BlueGrip C2 red max ,Yinhe Super Kim Ox Black NZ table tennis selector, third in the World (plate Doubles)I'm Listed on the ITTF website |
Posted By: igorponger
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 10:01pm
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Jenkins has damadged his racket against table's edge during play, quite incidentally. Upon inspection on the damadged racket, the match umpire told Ryan to replace his racket for another one.. Jankins got into high fuss, protesting against the umpire's ruling. Tournament Refery was instantly involved into the case who decided to penilize Ryan from the event for a bad discipline.
This is what I was reported about the case from a fellow umpire. Igor national umpire Russia |
Posted By: loop+loop
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 10:20pm
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That's only a very small chip off the wood. Very surprised for the disqualification due to that. |
Posted By: vader555
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 10:45pm
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very small chip indeed .. are the rules that strict? or is this the umpire's call? ------------- SchlagerCarbon:Sriver/SriverEL AndroCarbonLightOff+:AndroCor2/Plasma Pending:Sardius:Thor's/Thor's |
Posted By: chunyenliu
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 10:52pm
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From "igorponger"'s info, it seemed to make more sense. Then it could be more like player's behaviour issue. ------------- My free Android app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidlet.tabletennistime" rel="nofollow">"Table Tennis Time" at Google
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Posted By: Stoi
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 11:02pm
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Sure this closes the case. Off-topic aren't pros supposed to have a bat for replacement? Why be that stubborn? |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 09/22/2011 at 11:52pm
The next step would be to disqualify players who systematically hit the table when chopping.
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Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 09/23/2011 at 1:11am
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Igorponger's explanation makes much sense and I'm glad to hear he wasn't disqualified just because of the damaged blade. Still, he no longer can use it for competition and has to replace it. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 09/23/2011 at 10:36am
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I wonder if they do this at tennis tournaments. We're sorry Roger...but your racket has a ding in it! ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: zheyi
Date Posted: 09/23/2011 at 11:10am
| wow.. u have to be rich to be a pro player!!! |
Posted By: dici
Date Posted: 09/23/2011 at 2:14pm
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Tennis play will bring more than two rackets in a match. They would just change the racket even they found a small crack during the play. This same go for badminton too. Some of the play will bring close to 20 rackets lol... there is a match where the player broke 12 racket+ string in one full match |
Posted By: Boss1703
Date Posted: 09/23/2011 at 2:22pm
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he hits the table and he should ask the umpire to change blade coz it was "dammaged". unfortunately for him he doesn't have a second blade exactly like the first one. now they check the blade before and after the match... so if you are not able to have 2 identical blades and you damage one... you are dq! ------------- https://www.facebook.com/pierrefiassemapageping updated 20.11.10 http://bosscollection.skyrock.com http://tennisdetablecomtests.skyrock.com |
Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 09/23/2011 at 2:27pm
Tennis pros have many racquets. And switch very often. Table Tennis players are very picky, even playing with one ball. Unless in chinese super league.
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/23/2011 at 2:28pm
+1 Tons of playable blades I saw have even worse damage. I think someone has complained and umpires were forced to make a decision. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/23/2011 at 2:29pm
That is what I do - before tournament I prepare two almost identical paddles (diff is usually in the wear on the rubbers) and then use one of them throughout. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: artakwol
Date Posted: 09/23/2011 at 4:25pm
It is true about t-shirts as well, you need to have 2 absolute identical t-shirts, if you want to change it during the match. |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 07/30/2012 at 11:07pm
(i know, old thread) same here... it's my new policy... and thus a must to own three Experts so one can always be in rubber testing mode  ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 07/31/2012 at 6:03am
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I know old subject, but just wanted to say, there is no rule to say you bat must be identical and if forced to change you can use any approved rubbers including long pimples/ thin sponge inverted or any other approved setup
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