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Tibhar77 
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is samsonov force pro a good blade? easy to loop?
good with tenergy 05? thanks  |
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Posted: 12/30/2012 at 8:35pm |
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its a fast 7 ply all wood blade similar to a clipper wood. i have a review of that blade here in the forums you just need to use the search button
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Posted: 12/30/2012 at 8:40pm |
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thanks :) but is this blade a good lopping blade. i have never tried clipper wood :(
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Posted: 12/30/2012 at 8:46pm |
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its stiffer than other looping blades. you can loop with it though but its more on loop drivers and also rubbers you use with it
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Posted: 12/31/2012 at 4:16am |
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Less powerfull than most 7 ply blades. It's thin and feels hollow.
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Posted: 12/31/2012 at 5:04am |
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Conic handles feels fine. I would rate a tiny faster than Korbel but always slower than any clipper
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Posted: 12/31/2012 at 6:33am |
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If your purpose is to loop with a tibhar blade buy a tibhar samsonov alpha old version grey handle 5 ply, it is a looping machine..
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Posted: 12/31/2012 at 6:58am |
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is it better than samsonov premium contact? premium contact is to slow. |
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Posted: 12/31/2012 at 11:05am |
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i play with it and it is a great blade!
my set-up was grip-s europe 2.0 red/black tsp curl P-4 ox i will play in january with black evolution fx-p and red joola badman ox.
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Posted: 12/31/2012 at 11:21am |
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Are you sure about conic handle ? I didn't know the force pro was available with conic handle. Thought only Tibhar combaT was. Do you have one ? if so, please share pics. Thank you.
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Posted: 12/31/2012 at 12:07pm |
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I thought about buying it. But the smaller head size is not very discouraging.
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you are talking about samsonov force pro, not alpha?  good looping combo with grip s-europe? thanks! |
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Posted: 12/31/2012 at 2:58pm |
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yep samsonov pro...
it was so good that i thaught i have finished my ej... but i received a sheet of evolution... with that blade my block game is back! it is also very good at mid distance... (i am def/all player) i can loops easilly...
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Posted: 12/31/2012 at 5:01pm |
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I´m 100% sure that CONIC handle it really exist on that model. It´s the only CONIC handle of all the blades manufacturated by Thibar, because it was requested by Vladie, once he had even issues on his vintage Mazunov. A common friend of both, which is a blade collector (he´s got more than 200 old blades) , invited Vladi to his home to get some stuff to e´jing, so Vladi felt in love with old stiga conic handle model, and then asked Thibar to copy it on SFP  .I you don´t find it, you can order it the shops he owns here, vsport.es Hope it helps. :) Edited by jonyer1980 - 12/31/2012 at 5:18pm |
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can you please give me a short review about evolution fx-p. can you compare it with tenergy 05 fx? thanks |
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review donic M2 Donic's new Bluefire is a completely new rubber development offering top speed. A new high-tech generation of rubbers in the proven Formula FD3-technology has been developed as a result of the perfect combination of the large pored blue sponge with an extremely spinny top surface rubber. The top rubber with its small, long pimpled-in structure lends the rubber the best possible flexibility and sensational feeling. Above all, the Bluefire is unbelievably fast with a characteristic high arc when top-spinning that enables maximum spin and increased speed. Speed: 90 |
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Can't be more accurate :    The handle is almost identical to Kjell Johansson. A bit longer (10cm iso 9.8). Seller confirmed that it is the very blade of Vladi with same conic handle. Mine is very light 84gr. Thank you for the tip. |
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mine is prototype version:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=543853172311442&set=pb.100000602927575.-2207520000.1357937519&type=3&theater http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=539760596054033&set=pb.100000602927575.-2207520000.1357937535&type=3&theater
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I hope you like it
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since the construction is similar to Joola Viva, they are both 7ply, limba outer, I am wondering if anyone here played with both and what is the difference between the 2 of them?
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Very good blade ! One of the fastest 7 ply blades I've had. High throw, soft touch, medium stiff. Doesn't feel very solid. I suspect the handle to be hollow. Not sure thow. Excellent balance. I suppose Vladi found there something as fast as Mazunov with better handle and lighter weight. Could only play 10mm before elbow pain came back. Not sure it is same construction as Joola Viva cause plies 3 and 5 very much look like balsa to me. Might be wrong there as well.
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jcdi thx for the reply. it should be an awesome blade
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why ...why on earth we get bogged by total weight of blade?????
Why... why on earth equipment manufacturers make the handle hollow, to reduce overall weight and please us?????? Why ..... why on earth we buy those blades and use todays heavy rubbers, completely destroying the already messed up balance....???????? Why .... why the shoulder pains come back ?????  |
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jcdi .... pl think several times before praising a blade !!!
 ....because i take your reviews seriously.  And i dont have money to throw away..... !!!  Edited by debraj - 01/15/2013 at 6:03pm |
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its still a limba-ayous composition
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Please don't take this review too seriously because, as mentioned, I only hit the ball 10 minutes and noone can pretend making a relevant review in 10 minutes. I only throw few quick impressions there because this blade was discussed about before. The blade has been fully and nicely described by Yogi bear before and you should stick to what he said better. I'm really not sure about the hollowness of handle, it's just a guess.
Edited by jcdi - 01/27/2013 at 3:32pm |
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yogi is one of my best buddies in this forum....
 he led me to vega europe ... and i'm ever thankful to him for that time. but these days he started smoking herbs and chewing some leaves ....
 before reviewing equipments. And .... i am losing my confidence in his recent reviews... LOL !!!  |
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Posted: 01/27/2013 at 4:42am |
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Some say its slower than Clipper, would you agree with this? |
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There are clippers and clippers...Force pro felt much faster to me than the last 87gr 2011 new clipper I purchased. Also faster than 2005 CR/WRB 82gr. But slower than oversize WRB reduced to normal size.93gr. Speed looked the same to me than DHS PG7 92gr. In other words, force pro is the fastest light 7 ply clipper-like I've had.
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Hello to France to jcdi, I'm very interested in the blade you are showing here. Where did you get it and where can I get it?
best regards,Gökhan |
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