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Posted: 02/06/2007 at 2:50am |
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take a 5 ply and 7 ply blade made of more or less the same wood or wood/fiber material etc.. What is the difference between these 2 blades? I would assume the 7 ply is stiffer with more speed. What tends to be the other differences. I've only ever played with 5 ply blades so im curious as im thinking about getting a particular blade which is 7 ply.
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A 7-ply is heavier and faster, typically favoured by players with a weaker far table game.
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Typically 5ply all-wood blades have a thicker core; but a 7ply usually has a core of 3 thinner plies. It is likely that the thicker core would give a 5ply more power, away from the table. (assuming that the overall thickness of a 5ply and 7ply being the same).
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We have a topic about this on the French forum and what came out mostly was that 7 plys were often thicker, stiffer and faster. But even if the 7 plys are faster they require more efforts to get the most speed out of it. 7 plys better for blocking and smashing because stiffer and 5 plys better for spinny top spin because they have more felx. Quite a few also felt that 7 plys were better for short game because less bouncy in that kind of game.
This is just a general feeling, not a rule because it all depends a lot on thicknesses of each ply and also the way they are glued together.
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Would you say a 5ply is faster than a 7ply with same type(s) of wood and same overall thickness? With overall thickness being the same, 5ply will have a thicker core, but the 7ply will have a thinner core.
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I can't give you an answer to that but maybe the explanation here can help: http://www.misterping.com/catalogues/sanwei/index.html Have a look at page 35. It's quite interesting.
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Page 35? Maybe you don't mean the page with glues and balls?
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aha. I found it. It is actually page 31. Interesting indeed
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Do you mean the page with the illustration of 1st and 2nd speed? You can see the Chinese use this term sometimes, Xu Xin with his Rosewood V is a good example of a guy who goes for slower 1st speed & faster 2nd speed, with the high spin kicking the ball when it hits the table. But I think something has been lost in the translation on these pages, they show what looks like a typical 5 ply construction with the text "short touch time, fast 1st speed." Also, I have shopped several Sanwei blades on aliexpress and I have seen their advertisements. You should know that the third illustration (the 9 ply with "integrated function" and "all attack") is just promotion for their "domino" structure which they claim is better than traditional construction types used by Galaxy, DHS and so on.
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yeah sorry page 31 on the catalog, page 35 was referring to the pages written on the top left.
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Wow, Sanwei are no joke-17/18/19 ply blades. According to their description those should be really flexible. My hands are itching for some extra flex
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