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    Posted: 08/16/2010 at 6:27am
If you insist on cheating, why not use speed glue as this clearly have the best effect?

You might go undetected with some boosters or home made tuners, but that doesn't make it less cheating, the rules are pretty clear about this.
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anyone tried eucalyptus oil with tenergy 64 ? pls tell me the results !!!
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interesting...i might try it
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oh,wow,how did this thread get to be here after almost 2 years?:)tommy zai knows all about this tuner,i hope he reads this,too.:)i wonder if a poor madman has beeb back to this forum after being beaten by tommy and banned by moderators
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ultra pure lamp oil works with anything.
the best way is even to use 2ml of d-limonene the 1st day to make the whole sponge stretch a bit so it will then suck anything new.
then add twice 3ml of ultra pure lamp oil: once a couple hours after the d-limonene and twice the day after. You play on the 3rd day.
Patience is the key. timing between your 2 setups is hard to keep consistent.
Most people I know just decide to pay the expensinve stuff to not deal with messy processes
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Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

I saw your post for eucaliptus oil so i bought one!it is not the same as yours but it is still eucaliptusoil!i used it on a J.O.waldner coppa platin soft and the results: the rubber took a curve (as it was speedglued) for about 10 mins and after came at it's first appearence!i think that it is not very effective tuning in my opinion!also i have to use baby oil sometime but if and this has no results... i will return to the expencive wayCry booster


Tenergy is not working with eucaliptus oil.

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I saw your post for eucaliptus oil so i bought one!it is not the same as yours but it is still eucaliptusoil!i used it on a J.O.waldner coppa platin soft and the results: the rubber took a curve (as it was speedglued) for about 10 mins and after came at it's first appearence!i think that it is not very effective tuning in my opinion!also i have to use baby oil sometime but if and this has no results... i will return to the expencive wayCry booster
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ha ha ha ha.
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hoLY cOWWacko!
 
jUST SEE HOW IT EXPANDS THE SPONGE.
dOES ANYBODY HAVE ACCIDENTALLY APPLYING THIS Eoil IN THEIR RUBBER AND SUDDENLY HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOMTongue???
aND RETURNED AND FELT SOMETHING HAVE SWOLLEN TOOThumbs%20Up???
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For sure Eoil will not be allowed because of the odor..  As far as cost .. EOil is cheap in asia.. So prices will drop in NA and Europe if  it is allowed. but i dont see it being allowed..
 
I wonder why Manufacturere have not tried bonding different types  of rubber compounds to get the tension effect assosiated with speed glues..
 
 
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then can u use other kinds of oil?
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how many layers for sponge is to be applied and how many to the top sheet? how long to wait between each coat?

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Originally posted by Flicker Flicker wrote:

Originally posted by tt12 tt12 wrote:

Using Eucalytus Oil Vs EE-2 as sponge expander experience:
1.The speed glue effect seems very speed-glue like on the same day, 
   effect decreases after several days. But, the sponges have become
   softer, similar to EE-2. 
2.In terms of cost, E-oil is not cheap. I bought it in GNC ($6.99 for 30 ml).
   EE-2 is about $24 for 120 ml (plus shipping).
3.I feel that after one week or so, the effect for EE-II and E-oil is about
   the same. But, E-oil is more expensive than EE-2 (unless someone
   can tell us where to buy much cheaper E-oil). 
4. Another advantage of E-oil is it is faster and easier to use.    
 
I agree that E-oil is not cheap.  I also agree that it is faster and easier to use.  Given the relative cost and the resulting limited and short-lived effects of E-oil, I am trying the Tibhar CTE next.  It has been ordered and I can't wait to try it since I have read so many good reviews about this product.  BTW, I tried EE2 too.  While it expand the rubber and does seem to soften up the sponge a tad, it does not give the same spin and speed and sound effects that speed glue does.
Yes, I forgot to mention the smell, and it did last for ever. (But not the speed glue effect).
I am still looking for a better/more economic alternative. How long does CTE last (not the advertisement message from the vendor)? 
 
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Starvos - It certainly gives you massive dome and expands the rubbers quite a bit but that does not translate into good speed, spin, and sound effects though for some reasons.  And when it does provide these effects, the effects do not last for too long.
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I used a 100ml bottle with Eucalyptus oil from the pharmacy.
It was made in Germany. 100 ml cost me only 4�.
I treated with E-oil a SriverEL having old speed glue on its sponge. I didn't peeled the old speed glue.
The E-oil penetrated the  glue  causing  an impressive  dome.


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Originally posted by tt12 tt12 wrote:

Using Eucalytus Oil Vs EE-2 as sponge expander experience:
1.The speed glue effect seems very speed-glue like on the same day, 
   effect decreases after several days. But, the sponges have become
   softer, similar to EE-2. 
2.In terms of cost, E-oil is not cheap. I bought it in GNC ($6.99 for 30 ml).
   EE-2 is about $24 for 120 ml (plus shipping).
3.I feel that after one week or so, the effect for EE-II and E-oil is about
   the same. But, E-oil is more expensive than EE-2 (unless someone
   can tell us where to buy much cheaper E-oil). 
4. Another advantage of E-oil is it is faster and easier to use.    
 
I agree that E-oil is not cheap.  I also agree that it is faster and easier to use.  Given the relative cost and the resulting limited and short-lived effects of E-oil, I am trying the Tibhar CTE next.  It has been ordered and I can't wait to try it since I have read so many good reviews about this product.  BTW, I tried EE2 too.  While it expand the rubber and does seem to soften up the sponge a tad, it does not give the same spin and speed and sound effects that speed glue does.
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Paraffin oil (or grill lighter) is  much better for tuning, because it isn't stinking and it is definitely (!!) legal. And it's also very cheap.

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Using Eucalytus Oil Vs EE-2 as sponge expander experience:
1.The speed glue effect seems very speed-glue like on the same day, 
   effect decreases after several days. But, the sponges have become
   softer, similar to EE-2. 
2.In terms of cost, E-oil is not cheap. I bought it in GNC ($6.99 for 30 ml).
   EE-2 is about $24 for 120 ml (plus shipping).
3.I feel that after one week or so, the effect for EE-II and E-oil is about
   the same. But, E-oil is more expensive than EE-2 (unless someone
   can tell us where to buy much cheaper E-oil). 
4. Another advantage of E-oil is it is faster and easier to use.    
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The effect lasted roughly 5~6 days.  The effect was optimal on the 2nd and 3rd day, spin-speed-control-and-sound-wise.  I bet if I have kept the racket in a Dr Neubauer Pressure box, the effect probably will last much longer.
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So other than the smell, what did you think and how long did the effect last?
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Originally posted by GenomicsKnight GenomicsKnight wrote:

I stopped using it because I can't stand the smell.  Both my gym bag and my basement still smell from EO that was used a month ago!
 
I have the same problem
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I stopped using it because I can't stand the smell.  Both my gym bag and my basement still smell from EO that was used a month ago!
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So whatever happened to this thread?  It just died all of a sudden.  Is no one using EO anymore?  Did everyone determine that this isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread?  Any more reports???
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Interesting thread.
 
A few questions for those that have tried using EO.
 
1.  How did you apply to the sponge?  What did you use to spread it?
 
2.  How about the topsheet?  How was this applied?
 
3.  When EO was used to help remove old glue, was old glue removed by "rolling" or "pulling"?  Was the removal clean, meaning so holes in the sponge?
 
4.  Could the EO effect be different depending on the density of the sponge?  Some sponge are more porous than others.
 
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Originally posted by Flicker Flicker wrote:

Brainstorm69 - Did you trim off a lot of excess rubber from your IQ?  If you did, it was a sign that you over-stretched your rubbers and your short game will suffer as a result because the rubbers are under a lot of tension.  I am sure there might be other reasons, but it was one of my experience with E-oil previously.

 
Yes I did, and that was probably alot of the problem.  I should have waited longer before gluing them, but I wanted to try them the next day.
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Brainstorm69 - Did you trim off a lot of excess rubber from your IQ?  If you did, it was a sign that you over-stretched your rubbers and your short game will suffer as a result because the rubbers are under a lot of tension.  I am sure there might be other reasons, but it was one of my experience with E-oil previously.

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Well, I used EO on some IQ and put it on my new Galaxy Y-1 yesterday.  I played with it today and didn't like it.  My short game sucked with it.  Pushes went too far or into the net. No control, really.  Played much better with my T-2 with unglued Six Shooter.
 
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Originally posted by Flicker Flicker wrote:

Thanks for the report, GK.  Did your rubber shrink back smaller than the blade?  Would you say the speed, spin, and sound of the rubber this time was comparable than before when the rubbers were first treated with E-oil or less?


It didn't shrink back that much, even after I left it along to unstretch for almost a day.  I had to trim it off about 1/4" off the top and < 1/8" around the sides.  The speed and spin improvements were not as pronounced as when the rubber was treated by E-oil the first time.  Nevertheless, I do feel now the speed and spin are just right for me.  Anyway, the only thing I wish was the sound could have been louder.  Personally I feel the sound sometimes can serve as a very good positive reinforcement.
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Gene - You said you are satisfy with the results.  So would you continue be using E-oil knowing that its effects last a couple of days the first time, and then only a couple of hours with subsequent regluing (with regular glue)? 
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maybe the speed, spain, and soud of the rubber is close the first time after treatment,  but it won't last long. maybe 2 hrs of play. it happen to me before, but it didn't last long.

well, overall, i dont mind the smell of the e-oil, and the effect is pretty close the the speed glue, but last a couple days long. i think i am satisfy with the results. 
 
 
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