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PingPangQiu
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No click, only a bit faster and spin. Its not as good as speed glue.
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No Lung Cancer.
No short life. Before 20080106_205230_Euci-One.gif After One Light Coat 20080106_205338_Euci-Two.gif |
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PingPangQiu
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Yes it is healthier
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tommyzai
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PingPangQiu,
You are probably the faster member to 1000 in the history of this forum. I send you an early congratulations, but don't neglect your schoolwork or I'll get on a plane to HK and spank you! |
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Hookshot
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Ping Pang,,,
What kind of rubbers have you done with the Eucalyptus? How many coats? Did you do the top sheet? How much did they dome? Did the dome go away when you did the top sheet? What % speed increase did you get? Spin? |
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PingPangQiu
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Hurricane 3 commercial. 2 coats. No. Alot. I already said, it is better, but not a lot. Better than nothing though
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PingPangQiu
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Thank you so much Tommy. I would like to thank my family, friends and the members of this forum for encouraging me for this great achievement
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Hookshot
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Here is what happened with Nano Cannon,,,
Three coats and the rubber was a tube. This only took about 30 minutes. Then I put one coat on the topsheet. The dome started going the other way. So fast you could watch it go. In 2 hours, the sheet was almost flat. I put one more coat on and it went into a reverse dome so it looked like a taco. The next morning I put more on the sponge and in ten minutes the sheet was flat again. Then I glued it on the blade. It is MUCH faster and the spin is better. It clicks VERY loud. I had the same thing happen with Energy. Looking at the sheet, I think you might have to use 2m sponge to stay legal. The top and sponge really swell up. Different rubbers will probably react differently to this stuff but so far, I think it equals any tuner out there. |
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anixon
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You're almost there... I have seen you post like almost any time of the day on almost everyday. I wonder how you have the time to even play ping pong?! I think you must play with a paddle in one hand, and a laptop in the other! |
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PingPangQiu
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Well you are half right. I bring my laptop into to room that i play in.
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tommyzai
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CONGRATULATIONS PINGPANGQIU!!!
Gong Xi!!! Gong Xi!!! Gong Xi!!! |
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pongcrazy
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Is there anything to note about the Eucalyptus oil effecting the topsheet playablility or durability since you put two coats directly on it? Did you have to clamp or press at all to glue? Thanks!
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PingPangQiu
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lol thank you again tommy
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Hookshot
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Hi Pong,,,
I glued it on and felt the edges. They were solid but I still put it in a clicky press for 30 minutes. This stuff soaks in real fast and does not feel oiley like EEII. It will take alot more experimenting but so far, this looks good. I like how fast it works. The topsheet after treatment feels just slightly less grippy. About one hour later it is more grippy than new. (at least with Nano Cannon and Energy) I am waiting to hear results with different hardness sponges. Never know,,, maybe the topsheet will seperate from the sponge. Have to test more. There is no data that I know of on this stuff yet. |
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Thanks - I may get some just to try on some old sheets first. Most likely some friendship rubber. Keep us posted on your experimental progress.
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C.Y.
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Where did you get Eucalyptus oil in China? There are people in China want to try it but they can't find it in store.
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TSuBaSa
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I've tried it with a used Nittaku H3 Pro and with 2 layers and after 30 minutes the dome was real good. And after 1 hours its was like a taco. I didnt played with it but I'll try it tomorrow...
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GenomicsKnight
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When did you try it? Which brand of Eucalyptus oil did you get? Can you show a picture of it? Where did you order it in China? How long does it take for your H3 to dry with 2 coats of Eucalyptus oil? |
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Hookshot
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Hi GenomicsK,
This stuff does not have to dry. It soaks into the sponge or topsheet in just a few minutes at the most. Maximum dome has happened in less than 30 minutes for me on the rubbers I used. I glued one sheet on 10 minutes after I applied the oil. It is different than EEII, thinner. Does not seem to reduce the bond from glue. The brand is "Now Foods" The brand should not matter much if it is double distilled. |
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@Hookshot
Thanks for the valuable information. One more question: is this oil odorless? If not, how bad the smell is it? |
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tommyzai
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Genomics, I can answer this question, if Hookshot doesn't mind. It has a strong smell, but it's very nice. It's like Vicks Vapor Rub or Menthol in cough drops. I like it. It's used to clear congestion and as a body rub so it's very healthy. It's not a bad strong smell, IMO it's a good strong smell! |
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GenomicsKnight
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Thanks, Tommy! I think I will give it a try!!
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tommyzai
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Instead of opening all the doors and windows and wearing a mask . . .
breath it in and clear out your sinuses! |
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asr1990
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does it leave anymarks on the topsheet of the rubber when you apply it on the topsheet?
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asr1990
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so does it contain any sort of VOC compound? that may fail the ENEZ test?
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mizutani jun
tenergy bryce speed fx Will be trying Zeta soon |
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Stavros
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If Eucalyptus oil fails the ENEZ test , everything else will fail!
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Hookshot
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Hi ASR1990,,,
If you apply it to the whole topsheet, there are absolutly no marks. It does expand the topsheet alot so if you got some on one spot only, I am sure it would show. |
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tommyzai
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If tree sap fails that might mean blades can no longer be made of wood, which is fine by me because I designed a new line of blades made from animal fertilizer. I call them Poopoozoo. I used them at the Club last week and nobody . . . and I mean NOBODY . . . could stay on the table with me! Talk about fast! The ball doesn't stay on the blade any longer than it has too, and games are over quickly!
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This is anything but clear until a rubber drenched in E-oil has been tested in ENEZ detectors. I've just read on a German tt-forum that pure E-oil contains an organic solvent named "cineol" that is being used as an industrial solvent. It is also said that this is a volatile organic solvent, but the question is if the gas pressure of this VOC is within the forbidden margin or if it's below = compliant with the new ITTF rules. Somebody from Switzerland tried a E-treated rubber in a ENEZ detector and the result was negative. So E-oil should be OK, but this person didn't want to give details about the test at the moment because something strange happened during his tests. He'll report more after further tests. |
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asr1990
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Thanks,
i may try some just on the topsheet when CTE turns the rubber int a tube
asr1990
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mizutani jun
tenergy bryce speed fx Will be trying Zeta soon |
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