Review: Tuttle Beijing IV

The majority of the recent posts for the :) geek :) brigade only illustrate how utterly obsessed they are with proving they are 'right' and forcing their 'superior' supercilious opinions upon others they dont agree with. Using words like 'you people' is typical and condescending to the extreme. To clear up any misunderstanding, where I come from the word Geek is generally seen as a humourous way of describing a certain type of person. If I wanted to be condescending or offend I might have remarked 'oh no not the f**king arrogant Geek twats brigade again' or 'those damned geeks are at it again'. The overly serious response to one word in a previous post indicates that some have allowed their 'buttons to be pressed'. Chill out guys. If you are so confident that your methods, formulas experiments and hypotheses are so correct and so much better and more deficient, (sorry I mean efficient, damned predictive text, not deleted in case someone has already quoted me in their reply) and objective than the status quo then you should know that of course it will come to pass. In the meantime anyone new looking in on this thread may be wondering where the review of the rubber actually is.. fwiw I wont be basing my purchases just yet on the 'superior' methods detailed previously involving slabs of marble. Actually I find places like TTDB accurate and precise in terms of overall ratings of what I read about equipment and then playing with it myself. Eg Omega Pro-Vega Pro-Mark V-Tenergy- Various blades. Maybe I am just lucky as I dont need to try a wide range of rubbers or those I do are already well reviewed. For me, I know that only practice and improving technique-tactics-working on fitness will take my game forwards now. As per usual the thread is hijacked and allowed to be dragged way off the initial topic. I think a separate thread made into a sticky about the subject that the thread has turned into would be a useful thing to set up.

Edited by riker71 - 03/14/2012 at 6:57pm

dingy, which parts specifically did he mention inaccurate reviews on the video?

I'm just saying' . . . those geeks win. But in truth, the geeks are a bit annoying to play and watch . . . walking around the table mumbling to themselves after each point.

riker71 wrote: The majority of the recent posts for the :) geek :) brigade only illustrate how utterly obsessed they are with proving they are 'right' and forcing their 'superior' supercilious opinions upon others they dont agree with. Using words like 'you people' is typical and condescending to the extreme. To clear up any misunderstanding, where I come from the word Geek is generally seen as a humourous way of describing a certain type of person. If I wanted to be condescending or offend I might have remarked 'oh no not the f**king arrogant Geek twats brigade again' or 'those damned geeks are at it again'. The overly serious response to one word in a previous post indicates that some have allowed their 'buttons to be pressed'. Chill out guys. If you are so confident that your methods, formulas experiments and hypotheses are so correct and so much better and more deficient, (sorry I mean efficient, damned predictive text, not deleted in case someone has already quoted me in their reply) and objective than the status quo then you should know that of course it will come to pass. In the meantime anyone new looking in on this thread may be wondering where the review of the rubber actually is.. fwiw I wont be basing my purchases just yet on the 'superior' methods detailed previously involving slabs of marble. Actually I find places like TTDB accurate and precise in terms of overall ratings of what I read about equipment and then playing with it myself. Eg Omega Pro-Vega Pro-Mark V-Tenergy- Various blades. Maybe I am just lucky as I dont need to try a wide range of rubbers or those I do are already well reviewed. For me, I know that only practice and improving technique-tactics-working on fitness will take my game forwards now. As per usual the thread is hijacked and allowed to be dragged way off the initial topic. I think a separate thread made into a sticky about the subject that the thread has turned into would be a useful thing to set up.

Come on, don't be a geek, at least make your post reading friendly...

richrf wrote: But someone is going to have some egg all over their review. There should be a review of reviewers. I'm going to set up tt-reviewers.net.

Edited by pnachtwey - 03/15/2012 at 4:22am

I don't know how anyone could say it is very slow or very spinny, but . . . 

dingyibvs,

and also you can look at it this way that if a high level player can be inaccurate in some parts of his reviews how much more a lowly skilled player who can not do all the basic strokes properly

Glued with rubber cement, blade only, as FH, rubber was not much faster than mark v but produced some interesting throw angles -high on medium control strokes, lower on drives...

More when I have time.

As promised, a video of me playing with the TB4 for a little bit.  Took me a while to adjust to its lower throw, especially on the BH(using a lower throw blade didn't help either), but you can get a rough idea of how it plays, I suppose.

Edited by dingyibvs - 03/17/2012 at 2:51am

decent skills basing on the video though need to work on your body rotation a lil bit more. when you have used the TB4, was it better to hit through the sponge more or brush the ball like a typcial chinese rubber? i hope mine will arrive in about a week or 2

fatt wrote: I experienced a much more stable BH loop with it while I had to follow through more on blocks; so my game went up on the BH with it and I am thinking about switching permanently to it on that side. With my Boost TX on the BH I can make a lot of mistakes under pressure while it's great at practice. I expect the Beijing 4 to give me more control when I am stressed in an intense match.

AndySmith wrote: Bringing this thread back to life... I've been on a crazy BH rubber EJ voyage of discovery for the last few months. For my sins, I find that I really like Beijing IV. I would stick with it, but I do worry about the durability, combined with the fickle nature of Chinese rubber manufacturing. I remember falling heavily for Shark 2 Red Sponge, only for Haifu to push it off a cliff a few months after I declared my intentions to marry. So, does anyone think it might disappear from production any time soon? And if it did, what would be the nearest thing? Boost TC? Thanks for any info.

It's true, the durability is pretty bad but remember it's also relatively cheap. I don't think the rubber is going to go anywhere soon because the other beijings have been around for a while.