Pros who don't use sponsors equipment

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Edited by beeray1 - 10/20/2016 at 2:01pm

jonyer1980 wrote: I still wonder why Koki or kenta don´t have their own blade named by BTY since they´re BTY player and japanese as well. Same thing happens with ctw

vutiendat1337 wrote: most CNT Stiga sponsored players only use Stiga blades but not rubbers.

Wow, that's a lot of rubber.  But I guess they probably put in about 40 - 50 hrs of practice and play a week, suppose they burn through it pretty fast.

Then again, of course this assumes it'd be 3,000 rubbers a year and that my info isn't hopelessly outdated.

Anderni wrote: The runs won't be that large though. Let's say Donic has 30 pro players that want 2xTenergy a week for year, that's 3k rubbers a year. Then you need a separate mold for Andro etc.

Well, 3,000 rubbers a year would only add up to an additional $2+/- USD per rubber (assuming the mold with Donic's logo and BTY's Tenergy rubber costs less than the $100,000 USD mold I was discussing earlier for a more complex design). That's a fraction of at least the retail cost of such a rubber.

...but I still think the point's moot because it's unlikely, at least at the elite levels of pros and 2000 USATT (or other nations' equiv) players, that BTY thinks there's much in it for them. 

In more competitive industries, if you find a competitor's product that you like and you have something they like, it's very common to private label each other's product--quid pro quo.  Just not sure given BTY's dominance of the market at the more elite levels of the sport that they'd make such an agreement, as Tinykin pointed out.


Edited by BizLawProf - 01/15/2013 at 12:40pm

IanMcg wrote: BizLawProf wrote: You'd think the manufacturers doing the sponsoring would at least have an agreement with each other to stamp their own logos on the other company's equipment, such as I've been told  happens with many tour pro golfers. For rubbers, companies would have to make new moulds for their rubbers (expensive), and pay to legalize their new rubber with the ittf (expensive, would also make all other versions of the rubber illegal if the old one was replaced) As for blades, players are doing something like that anyways... Replacing handles, blade tags etc.

Molds aren't that expensive in context of the whole cost associated with the product so long as it's a reasonably large run.  Was part of a company that brought a plastic household product to market a decade ago, the mold was expensive to have designed and CNC machined (something like $100,000 USD, I think, and it was a much more complex mold than I think you'd have for a rubber), but in the context of the production run, it was a relatively small portion of the total cost, packaging was more expensive as I recall, the cut the distributor got was a lot more expensive to total cost, the cut the sales reps got was about the same.  And in the case of the rubber, it would be taking a mold already designed and just having it ground w/ different logo.  Not a big deal, so long as we're talking hundreds of thousands or millions of rubbers, pittance.  As for ITTF expenses, I don't have any notion what they'd be, so that might be the knock out, you may have good point there.

BizLawProf wrote: You'd think the manufacturers doing the sponsoring would at least have an agreement with each other to stamp their own logos on the other company's equipment, such as I've been told  happens with many tour pro golfers.

You'd think the manufacturers doing the sponsoring would at least have an agreement with each other to stamp their own logos on the other company's equipment, such as I've been told  happens with many tour pro golfers.

Imago wrote: Werner Schlager plays with Primorac Carbon.

yogi_bear wrote: vladi is using samsonov force pro blade

only for the last year or so

vladi is using samsonov force pro blade

atv wrote: I am just curious who else besides Timo is using both side rubbers and blade the same brand he is sponsored by? I only know the whole CNT are not...

I've seen nothing but a tenergy sponge on xu xin's BH for a long time.

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Edited by 7plywood - 01/12/2013 at 10:38pm