Non-transparent glue sheets?

I've got to glue some red OX long pimple rubber onto a blade (for a friend) that has some dark lines showing (in the wood, not graphics)... so gluing the sheet will definitely show them though, which is something he does not want. I've used white glue sheets before, but the glue sheets I have at the moment are all transparent, so that won't help.

Can anyone think of some glue sheets that are white, i.e. not transparent?

Thanks a lot

I have not. Would he be ok with you painting the blade red?

I think sanding the black lines (print) off is the easiest.

I don't recall seeing non transparent glue sheets

Otherwise, black rubber will be your best optiont

spray paint the glue sheet itself? I doubt the bonding characteristics of the glue will be affected.

ZApenholder wrote: I think sanding the black lines (print) off is the easiest. I don't recall seeing non transparent glue sheets Otherwise, black rubber will be your best optiont

Agreed with the black rubber, if you sand, you prob should also seal...more work for you.

This is a problem with gluing many OX red LP rubbers on many blades due to graphics on both sides of the blade or the blade having dark colored wood or wood grains showing through as they tend to be transparent.

http://www.butterflyonline.com/inventory.asp?CatId={290C518B-0641-401B-B04C-73C88AEC39B1}

No, this won't work. Best to use a black OX sheet.

Edited by jt99sf - 10/20/2013 at 3:58pm

jt99sf wrote: http://www.butterflyonline.com/inventory.asp?CatId={290C518B-0641-401B-B04C-73C88AEC39B1} Apply this and then glue the OX LP sheet on top.

Technically that's not legal.  But practically it might work depending on how well the glue adheres to the sheet.

Painting the blade is technically not legal either.  But then having a painting label on the blade surface is also not technically legal. 

From the standpoint of possibly altering playing characteristics and possibly needing to argue the legality, I think painting the blade is the best option.  Using a "paint sheet" is probably the next best option

THanks for all the comments guys!

pingpongpaddy wrote: are there black lines on both sides?

Sorry, I should have made it clearer in my first post.... the lines are from the wood (the grain & pattern of the cut), not from any graphics in there. The blade is also a combination blade, so the pimples have to go on that particular side. To make it worse, the long pimple is more effective in red, so I have no choice but to use red.

if you have any old air samples around, they came with glue sheets that are opaque

haggisv wrote: THanks for all the comments guys! pingpongpaddy wrote: are there black lines on both sides? Sorry, I should have made it clearer in my first post.... the lines are from the wood (the grain & pattern of the cut), not from any graphics in there. The blade is also a combination blade, so the pimples have to go on that particular side. To make it worse, the long pimple is more effective in red, so I have no choice but to use red.

wturber wrote: jt99sf wrote: If he doesn't like the look but the bat is legal, I really don't see an issue.  If any, it lies with the owner of the blade.  Well, that's the problem.  An umpire or referee might very well consider the lines showing through as being illegal.  It's a somewhat fuzzy area. The rules aren't crystal clear on this.

jt99sf wrote: wturber wrote: jt99sf wrote: If he doesn't like the look but the bat is legal, I really don't see an issue.  If any, it lies with the owner of the blade.  Well, that's the problem.  An umpire or referee might very well consider the lines showing through as being illegal.  It's a somewhat fuzzy area. The rules aren't crystal clear on this. Any umpires online here ?

I am an umpire.  Keep in mind that a player can always appeal an umpire's interpretation to the tournament referee. I gave details on the rules and T4 guidelines that might cause an umpire or referee to make a stink on OOAK forum.   I could argue this one either way - legal or illegal. If pushed, I'd say the rules are not clear enough to say that it is illegal.  But a referee could easily disagree.  Here's my posting from OOAK:

"It is certainly open for debate. I don't think this one is clear. An official might argue that either of these two rules apply.

2.4.6 The surface of the covering material on a side of the blade, or of a side of the blade if it is left uncovered, shall be matt, bright red on one side and black on the other.

Here they might argue that only some portions of the covering are bright red.

2.4.7.1 Slight deviations from continuity of surface or uniformity of colour due to accidental damage or wear may be allowed provided that they do not significantly change the characteristics of the surface.

You could use the above passage above to argue either way. On the one hand, it implies that uniformity of color matters and deviation is only allowed due to wear or accidental damage. On the other, it also suggest that non-uniform color can be tolerated (technically only if from damage or wear) if it does not significantly change the characteristics (playing characteristics implied).

There are also passages in the T4 pamphlet that make it clear that they have a goal of a uniformly colored surface for racket surfaces.

"1.4.3. Sandwich rubber
More than one layer of cellular rubber (sponge) is not permitted, even if the layers are of
the same composition. However, if the top sheet is translucent, then the layer underneath must be uniformly
coloured; it is not permitted for a manufacturer's logo on the lower layer, or on the blade, to show through."

"1. The racket covering
It should be noted in particular that:Authorisation is given to the top sheet plus the top sheet / sponge combination. Red and black top sheets with the same ITTF number or supplier and brand name must have the same geometry, properties, and text (wording and numbering). The surface colours must be uniform. Red and black top sheets of the same brand do not require separate authorisation fees."

cole_ely wrote: if you have any old air samples around, they came with glue sheets that are opaque

Thank you Cole!

Yes those are the only I remember like that...never seen any others from other brands. Thanks for the reminder though... I'll see if I have any old samples left.

I thought I might revive this topic to see if anyone else knows of opaque glue sheets. Although I found 1 or 2 old glue sheets to do the job, I'll need more in future, and I've stilkl not found anyone that sells them.... they're all transparent!