Tibhar New Poly 40+ ball review

vvk1 wrote: So I had a knock with the new Tibhar 40+ plastic ball at the club with two friends for about 30min, doing both drills and a best of 5 game. Here are my impressions (which are shared by them as well): * the ball has a visible seam * the new ball is harder, feels a touch heavier * when hitting the new ball, the sound is different * the new ball bounces higher than the regular ball * the new ball travels slower than the regular ball * there is less spin on the new ball after playing a topspin shot Overall, it was surprisingly easy to play with the new plastic ball. Higher bounce and less spin means that keeping the ball on the table is much easier. A spin-based attacker will need to work harder to spin the ball to the same degree as the regular 40mm ball. At the same time, blocking is almost effortless.  IMHO, most people who like to rally will enjoy playing with the new ball. 3rd ball power attackers will need to hit the gym though ...

vvk1 wrote: A faster blade won't make the ball spin faster because of decreased dwell. IMHO, someone built like Xu Xin, WLQ or Persson - with big strokes - will find it easier to impart comparable amounts of spin.

Thanks for the review!

There is Made in China print on the box.
Do you know which factory is responsible for their production?

kolevtt wrote: Thanks for the review! There is Made in China print on the box. Do you know which factory is responsible for their production?

igorponger wrote: NOBODY & NOTHING SHALL STOP ME.. Lazy people will always decry plastics, and the blockers will benefit greatly by plastics. I developed my blocking skills for years, with celluloid, AND I'M A KING now with plastics. So glad for all my followers, They gave me full confidence, they listened to my peculiar ideas and now we can rejoy fruits to the full, thanks to the plastics of course. We, the army of absolute blokers, are all the happy dogs now, and the loopers came off the underdogs. Mr, Sharara, my darling man, you're a genius thinker indeed.    You promoted Blockers to the Top of The World.   Thanks. I gonna to fill up my warehous brimful with dozens of plastics, and I will play this plastics endlessly long, nothing could stop me. Never. I am all delighted. Yes.

igorponger wrote: NOBODY & NOTHING SHALL STOP ME.. Lazy people will always decry plastics, and the blockers will benefit greatly by plastics. I developed my blocking skills for years, with celluloid, AND I'M A KING now with plastics. So glad for all my followers, They gave me full confidence, they listened to my peculiar ideas and now we can rejoy fruits to the full, thanks to the plastics of course. We, the army of absolute blokers, are all the happy dogs now, and the loopers came off the underdogs. Mr, Sharara, my darling man, you're a genius thinker indeed.    You promoted Blockers to the Top of The World.   Thanks. I gonna to fill up my warehous brimful with dozens of plastics, and I will play this plastics endlessly long, nothing could stop me. Never. I am all delighted. Yes.

I for one would like to see a video so we can all learn the blocking methods of The Master.  Of course you need to be able to return serve and get into the point before this helps you, but that's another point.  Also, what followers?  Maybe we can see videos of them instead.  Sharara a genius?  News to me.

jonyer1980 wrote: Mr Sharara can feel proud of the destruction of TT modern era. Thanks to his brightfull idea he has led TT into a plain/simple game which lacks the main essence it once had: spin

The game won't be the same after the new plastic/poly ball, that is for sure. But I think you have not correct view about the "spin" connected with the new ball's topic.
Of course, there is possibility the level of spin to be lower than before, but it is not the most serious factor in the game with the new balls I think. Today I was OK with the spin and the new ball Xushaofa, as my partner send many balls out of the table because of the spin I produced with loops. But in these moments I did not use my regular loops, but something near to vertical loop like I am playing VS defender.
Then I felt myself like a player from the 60's. I posted some videos of Alser and Johansson before time and may be I need to watch them once again.

I am not sure why, but I think the worst thing with the new ball is the lower speed in loops and the different trajectory of the ball as all. Here is the problem - just different trajectory, because of the higher weight,size and lower speed, not so much the spin.
These are my own thoughts based on my own experience, nobody is obliged to share or believe in them until he try by himself these new balls.
The step is done. I can not decide by myself only from just one training if it is UP or DOWN, POSITIVE or NEGATIVE. We all will need a time before to make general conclusions.
It will be great to see how the TOP players will use this ball, then I will make conclusion for myself.

I will buy as soon is possible more and more different new balls until I find the most playable for myself. Old balls are "dead" for me yet.
If I find something new and useful I will share it here.

Baal wrote: igorponger wrote: NOBODY & NOTHING SHALL STOP ME.. Lazy people will always decry plastics, and the blockers will benefit greatly by plastics. I developed my blocking skills for years, with celluloid, AND I'M A KING now with plastics. So glad for all my followers, They gave me full confidence, they listened to my peculiar ideas and now we can rejoy fruits to the full, thanks to the plastics of course. We, the army of absolute blokers, are all the happy dogs now, and the loopers came off the underdogs. Mr, Sharara, my darling man, you're a genius thinker indeed.    You promoted Blockers to the Top of The World.   Thanks. I gonna to fill up my warehous brimful with dozens of plastics, and I will play this plastics endlessly long, nothing could stop me. Never. I am all delighted. Yes.   I for one would like to see a video so we can all learn the blocking methods of The Master.  Of course you need to be able to return serve and get into the point before this helps you, but that's another point.  Also, what followers?  Maybe we can see videos of them instead.  Sharara a genius?  News to me.

The Tibhar ball is seamed, and seemed to survive smashing (against the table not cement floor :-)).

vvk1 wrote: In other words, "Цыплят по осени считают".

A propos chickens, do the new balls break like eggs?

sweetstrike wrote: Hows the durability?

We're still on the first one after 4hrs. Got hit by an edge a few times, smashed into the table and then the wall a few times too.

ALL PLASTIC BALLS TOO FAR FROM PERFECTION.

THE Production Code XF AD   = 06 14 =June 2014.

ITTF BoD directive
--"All the balls 40+ marked as produced prior to January 2016 can not be used for ITTF official events whenever after the date.."

Speaking straighforwards, all the plastics to come on market nowdays are just a provisional, trial product to be perfected still further...

We can not take those underdone products seriously. Sorry.

So, what is the price of these new TIBHAR balls and do you know if 120 pcs box is available?

Vardant wrote: I've only seen a 72 pcs box, at least from Tibhar. $1.5 per ball.

Hello, I'll be glad to see a link where I can buy 72 pcs from TIBHAR plastic balls for 1.5 USD (near 1.10 EUR) per piece, or 108 USD total (near 79.36 EUR), which is really good price I think for these new balls.
I checked the site of TIBHAR, but there is no plastic balls posted there for now.
This is very strange.
Only the JPS+ are available, they are 100 balls in box, made in Japan, but they are not plastic I think.
One ball of them cost "only 1.98 EUR". Very solid price.
http://store.tibhar.com/en/Balls-Accessories/JPS-100-pack.html
Another offer from TIBHAR with 72 pcs box with 3 *** balls on their site is this one:
http://store.tibhar.com/en/Balls-Accessories/3-star-ball-72-pack.html
Here the price for one ball is 1.27 EUR after calculation.

Thanks! That is OK 1.31 EUR per ball, but the offer posted without link from Verdant was more interesting ( 1.10 EUR per piece)
I noticed after a short searching they are offering also the new Joola plastic 40+ balls named SUPER-P.
http://www.contra.de/product_info.php/info/p13467_Joola-Ball-Super-P-3-Star-72er.html
It will be really great if someone in Germany (as they have everything from each brand first) just to make fast comparison between all the balls after test and to give us info which ball is the most playable, no matter of the price.
What I felt after some hours with the Xushaofa's balls I can't recommend to other players.
I am wondering where are Butterfly and what they are waiting for...