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BH-Man
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The rest of our stuff cleared customs and CEO Bogey is sending me some stuff, I get some stuff soon and should be able to weigh 12 at a time calibrated scale before adding the balls and try this with a few different base cups and get an average weight from the 12 balls down to .01 gram or less accuracy +/- .01 gram. My scale measures to .1 gram increments.
If anyone has a scale increments of .01 grams and can measure all 6 or 12 at a time that would be great too.
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Baal
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My scales easily do that.
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VictorK
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So, I found out that the junior managed to crack the Nexy ball I gave him on Tuesday ... which unscientifically proves that it's not the ball brand or playing conditions, but the player type ("Poly-Ball-Terminator") was the main reason for worse plastic ball durability at our club :o) Edited by VictorK - 02/05/2015 at 3:41pm |
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NextLevel
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Did the junior crack cell balls as well?
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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VictorK
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No, I can't recall him cracking celluloid balls more frequently than other players. |
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Baal
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In time you will know how they compare, when you play with several people.
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Nexy
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I am not sure whether it is good to come here and write or not.
Though I think I can say some small things, as long as I don't interupt too much to become annoying. The weight of NEXY balls have no problem. It is rather lighter than you might guess. I think some day, people will post more information with their scale result. The feeling comes from the material's difference. NEXY ball does not contain much extra chemicals compared with other brand balls, and the feeling comes from that raw material. So, it has plastic feeling. And that feeling is heavier than other brand balls' ones. Personally, the key issue about what ball is good, I think, heavily relies on the feeling. So, NEXY ball was carefully studied about that, and you have the result now in the market. |
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TSuBaSa
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It's no secret, with every kind of plastic balls(seamed, seamless, Japanese Chinese ) edge=crack.
I couldn't break any of my xushuoafa *** balls but my stupid friend (in his defense he wasn't playing for a while ) cracked two of them in 5 minutes... |
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JUST EAT IT..
No two minds about it,, --People shall leave moaning over the number of plastic balls destructed as soon as plastic gets down in price. I used to never keep a count of celluloid breackage for celluloid is a cheap staff. A cheap commodity , not worthy a single mention. Please take a note, -- Plastic is now getting even cheaper than celuloid. one factory of China does offer ITTF APPROVED plastic at 0.5 $ a piece. The cheapest price ever. Don't go in for a fool's job, dont get worry over the balls gone. Balls are just a consumery, just the meat of the game to be eated in plenty every day. AGAIN, He looks an oddy, INSANE character who would go crying in loud voice over the meat he eats at dinner.,. Psycho ailing.. JUST EAT IT !!! Edited by igorponger - 02/06/2015 at 6:57pm |
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Rich215
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....so your saying the supposed meat substance in a big mac is no worse than a ny strip steak from a backyard grill? .....just eat it little johnny....its just meat! |
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tommyzai
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I love the seamless balls. I never liked having seams. I realize celluloid balls are more elastic, which results in less variance between impact on the seamed area, but still . . . there was a difference, even if slight. Having no seam, especially in the poly ball age (less elasticity) makes sense and looks much cooler. I think the reason companies are manufacturing a seamed poly ball is because they have the machines and technique and don't want to change. Also, players . . . humans in general . . . are resistant to change, even if it's a change for the better. Tzai has spoken. ;-)
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BH-Man
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I call such a thing in the military the "RTC Factor" since many in military resist change as well.
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BH-Man
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I got my 12 balls in from Florida and weighed all 12 at the same time after calibrating scale to accomodate the packaging.
I did it 3 times and got all 3 weights the same at low end of 33.4 grams for 12 balls.
That is 2.78 grams per ball.
Funny the technical leaflet from IITF says 2.7 grams and not 2.70 or 2.71 grams.
Hmmmm.
I would be interested to see the weight of 6 or 12 balls using a scal that measures to .01 grams. Mine only goes to .1 gram... |
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BH-Man
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Here is the area that addresses it, I didn't reaad down far enough.
So my scale shows they are on high end of spec just a hair over. I hope my scale is measuring .02 gram heavy. Hard to tell as it is cheap scale, but I think it indicates weight is on the very upper part of what is allowed. I would love to see someone do it on a real good expensive scientific scale.
B.1 Weight Conformity Law 2.3.2 specifies 2.7g, but any weight between 2.67 and 2.77g is acceptable for any one ball. No more than 1 ball out of the 24 sampled may be outside this range. The sample mean must be between 2.69 and 2.76g. In carrying out statistical calculations we treat any weights less than 2.60g or greater than 2.85g as outliers. For non-celluloid balls, until January 1, 2016: Any weight between 2.65 and 2.82g is acceptable for any one ball, as well as for the sample mean. |
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Baal
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With very accurate balances, the other seamless balls are just a touch lower than you are getting, in the range of around 2.74-2.76. Stevenliang has some posts here you can see. I would be surprised if Nexy is very different.
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mts388
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I played with my new Nexy balls last night and liked them. I only used one for 45 minutes, but will use them for 5 hours tomorrow to see how they last. I have a feeling that they are a very good ball.
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NoRema
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played with these balls for the first time tonight. Thankfully they were all round unlike the other balls i've tried. other club members were asking where i got them and i gladly pointed them in the right way. NOBODY in our club uses xsf and most of them just use the old 40mm premium nittakus. i feel this ball may have converted a few though
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bogeyhunter
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Thank you (NoRema and mts388) for positive feedback.
I played them for about 5 weeks. Players at club love them and have no reason to find/test any other balls. |
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Baal
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bogey, is there a site where I can buy a box?
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mts388
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NoRema
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I think he means in bulk
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Baal
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No, I just meant a few boxes. I have about 150 really good XSF balls. I just want to try the NExy to compare. Thanks for the info.
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NextLevel
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I ordered some last week for the same reason.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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VictorK
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Let us know what you think of the Nexy balls after you've had a chance to play with them few times. |
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VictorK
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Anyone else had a chance to play with the Nexy poly balls recently?
If so, I'm curious whether your observations about playing characteristics and durability are similar or different from mine (in the initial post). |
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Baal
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Not yet. I ordered some.
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Let me just comment here that if all companies offered the same sort of customer service as bogeyhunter and BH-man at Nexy USA, the world would be a better place.
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Baal
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I received the Nexy Balls from Bogeyhunter et al at Nexy USA who provide amazing customer service. Ten thumbs up. If you possibly can, you should support one of our members here.
The Nexy Polyballs that I received were very good by any standard, that is the bottom line. However, they are as far as any of us could tell over about three hours, identical in their playing properties to XSF balls that were made in April. When the ball was changed randomly we could not discern in free play or drills whether the ball in play was an XSF or the Nexy*. (By we, I mean four players ranging from 2000 to 2400). I have no idea when the Nexy Balls were made because no matter how hard I looked, I could not find the four-letter code on the box (I literally also took out a magnifying glass, still couldn't find it). Their similarity also showed up in static bounce tests. I can't say much about durability in one session of several hours, but I can say that the amount of wear after that was exactly what I have seen in the past for XSF (which means these balls are in much better shape after one session than a Nittaku Premium 40+). That should not be regarded as criticism. I like XSF balls (long-timers on this site will know that I was singing their praises before pretty much anyone else) and I liked these. They were perfectly round, bright white and easy to see, excellent high bounce, and in short a perfect example of the seamless balls that are made from this factory. You should have no hesitation to use them, but don't expect something new and better. *Right after that, I played with a Nittaku Premium 40* and immediately noticed the difference and had a little trouble adjusting in time to do well in a couple of matches with it. |
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viva
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nexy balls are harder than butterfly, nittaku poly balls. quality is top notch.They are similar if not better than XSF in my book.
Edited by viva - 02/21/2015 at 7:32pm |
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VictorK
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It's really funny how at your club everyone thought Nexy and XSF balls played identical, while in our club players felt there where distinguishable differences between them - perhaps we use different batch of XSF balls ... or the difference is just in your heads, LOL Btw, did you you try to weigh the balls on your super-accurate scale? Anyway, regardless of whether there's a difference, it looks like we agree that both balls are high quality, round and have very pleasant playing characteristics. |
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